This coin may be cleaned... Any opinions?

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  1. Colby Abele

    Colby Abele New Member

    I am almost sure that this Bust 1817 Half Dollar (O-106) is cleaned. The Appearance is dull, and smooth. I also see a sort of "Sparkle" at the right angle. (guessing dipped) I need to know how the value will be affected with a coin in this condition? Or is it even worth sending in to get reslabbed, or even trying my luck with a dealer.
     

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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    It looks dipped, so you gotta ask yourself, why did they dip it? It probably made it look better. Personally, I wouldn't waste my time with it but that's just me. :D
     
  4. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    It may be just me, but I’m not inclined to believe that any coin coming out of a basement slabbing service is not a problem coin.
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Someone's nose is growing.... 07a684ca3c9135c4021d0ed6052b30a7.png
    Now what story is this one ....purchased on ebay,? Or purchased for face value at a yard sale?
     
  6. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Neither! This particular NNC 1817 O-106 was inherited and given to him by his uncle’s cousin, who happens to be butler to the Grand Duke of Luxembourg whose great great grandfather was given this half dollar in 1799 by John Adams himself, 18 years before it was supposedly minted!
     
  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I'll wait for the movie...better yet HBO or Show Time.....
     
  8. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Owned by a little old lady, and only cleaned on weekends.
     
  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    To put in the collection Plate at church...God bless!
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    From Pasadena, who owned a 'super stock Dodge'.......
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Then she gave it to him as a graduation present, for finishing last in his class.
     
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  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Dipped for sure. I’d call it au 50-53. I’d try the paper envelope trick for a couple years and see how it looks
     
  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Dipped too long. Low AU range.
     
  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Best to leave as is. Certainly not worth the fees.
     
  15. Colby Abele

    Colby Abele New Member

    you guys are all wrong. I am George washington himself.
     
  16. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Then you’ve known Doug for 275 years
     
  17. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, I have done that, and it has often worked. In my experience it takes five or six years, but that’s how the toning got there in the first place.
     
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  18. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Fun thread...... However in all seriousness, aren’t these old bust halves expected to have been given a cleaning? Granted, this appears pretty fresh. But I thought it was somewhat expected that earlier generations of collectors would clean these old halves.
     
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  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I try to make the point, but some people refuse to listen. There is a difference between cleaning and dipping. Cleaning involves moving the surface metal around, which often damages the coin from a market perspective. Dipping involves removing a very small amount of oxidized metal from the surface. In the best cases, it results in virtually an imperceptible change. Dipping can result in cleaning if it is done for too long or too many times.

    The current coin could go either way. The photos are shot at and angle, and photos can never be a better substitute for a personal examination.
     
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  20. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Oh you'll pay for that remark lol:hilarious:
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It would be great to see images shot flat to the lens. That would give us a better idea about the coin. What's going on at 12 o'clock on the obverse? Scratch or die crack?
     
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