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  1. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    A lovely example, congrats.

    I have not seen any particular scarcity of this issue, even in uncirculated grades, above what would be suggested by the relative mintage figures, though examples above MS63 for most years, and above MS64 for 1938 are difficult to find. You can see my type example here. It is a 1936, which is one of the lower mintage years. (The link can have a bit of load time.)
    https://collectivecoin.com/Jaelus/4paGP6E5paLGJmmvmbkD/VX5EShxm1l5Oy1FUTHXd

    Keep in mind that 1939 was the last year of production for circulating silver issues for classic Hungarian coinage. A few circulating silver coins were issued in the modern coinage period after the war, but it was irregular. With WWII around the corner it would not be unusual for any of the silver issues in the years leading up to the war to have been hoarded or melted.

    Of note, this 2 Pengő issue is really a modern version of the Mária Terézia thalers issued from 1767-1785, as you can see here:
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  3. Crikey I have learned so much from this post, thanks so much for your time and experience, I never realised this design had been used before, your coin is a stunner, I think Hungarian coins in general are just scarce here in the UK, and most that do come up for sale are well worn.
     
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  4. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Ma-shops has a lot of nice Hungarian material, and there are two major auction houses that deal in Hungarian coins: Nudelman Numismatica and Pannonia Terra. You can get some wonderful coins through their web shops too. Also Macho & Chlapovic deals in a lot of Hungarian material, but not cheaply. There's also the Hungarian eBay (vatera.hu), and for some types of issues I use a dealer in Budapest as a buying agent as well.
     
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  5. Finally found a half decent one of these coins with most of its mint lustre, not a rare coin but hard to find here in higher grades.
    This is my new 1944 dated British India 1/4 Rupee, made from .500 silver.
    This coin had more variations among the three mints that made them, there was reeded edge, security edge, thick edge, thin edge, long edge teeth, short edge teeth, low relief portrait, high relief portrait, long crown fleur delys, short crown fleur delys, and probably other things I have forgotten.
    This coin was made by the Bombay mint, with a whopping 170,504,000 produced by that mint that year alone.



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  6. This came today, its a 1937 dated Egyptian, 2 Piastres of the reign of King Farouk, made from .833 silver.
    Quite a scarce coin in an uncirculated grade here in the UK, and not many were minted this year, it was only made for three different years before being replaced by the hexagonal version in .500 silver.

    Production figures as follows

    1937, 500,000
    1939, 500,000
    1942, 10,000,000

    Quite a difference in the early mintages, the coins were made at the British Royal Mint, why they chose .833 silver puzzles me, its an unusual grade compared to other coins I have.


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  7. This arrived today, a 1942 dated, Irish 1/2 Crown, second type, made of .750 silver.
    A quite large coin the Irish Half Crown featured an Irish Hunter horse on the reverse, all Irish coins of this period had a national animal on their reverse, a Gaelic Harp featured on the obverse of all coins.
    The 1/2 Crown was the highest denomination of coin that Ireland had during the pre decimal period, the first type of coin released was in 1928 and the harp separated the date with the century one side and the year the other, also on the reverse was the words Saorstat Eireann or 'Free State' , in 1939 there was a second type of coin released which had the date all in one area and the words Free State replaced with Eire or Ireland.
    The mintage for these coins was very low, that combined with the high silver content meant that not many of these coins have survived in uncirculated condition, silver was used in circulation Irish coins until 1943, though very few were made that last year.
    My coin while in mint condition with all its lustre looks to have a slight manufacturing fault, above the horse it looks like a rogue piece of silver got stamped into the coin with some other bits, perhaps this is why its in such good condition, was it put aside as a reject possibly ? it came from London where they were minted by the Royal Mint.
    The production figures for the second type 1/2 Crown are as follows, as can be seen, each year production got lower and lower,

    1939, 888,000
    1940, 752,000
    1941, 320,000
    1942, 286,000
    1943, 1,000


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  8. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    i love the reeding..(design)
     
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  9. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Mostly I am interested in ancients, but I love Czech and Hungarian coins.:)

    Have these 3, all of them with a high mintage, for which I don't know the mint city. As you can see they still have the dirt from many, many years:oops:, maybe I should wash them:

    5 Korun, Nickel
    Ob.: Czech lion with Slovak shield, REPUBLIKA ČESKOSLOVENSKÁ 1938
    Rev.: Industrial factory 5 KČ in exergue control mark G
    Edge: plain with crosses and waves
    Engraver: Otto Guttfreund
    Ref.: KM 11a; Schön 9a

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    1 Koruna, Copper-Nickel
    Mintage = 3,806,000
    Engraver: Otakar Španiel
    Ob.: Czech lion with Slovak shield REPUBLIKA ČESKOSLOVENSKÁ 1937
    Rev.: Woman with sheaf and sickle value 1; in exergue O·Španiel
    Edge: reeded
    Ref.: KM 4; Schön 7
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    20 Haleru, Copper-nickel
    Mintage = 40,000,000
    Engraver: Otakar Španiel
    Ob.: Czech lion with Slovak shield REPUBLIKA ČESKOSLOVENSKÁ 1921 control mark below
    Rev.: Sheaf with sickle, lime spring; value 20; in exergue O·Španiel
    Edge: reeded
    Ref.: KM 1; Schön 4
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  10. If mine are dirty but look good underneath I will use the baking soda method of cleaning them, its also safer on none silver coins I have found.
    That 1921 looks at a glance just like the reverse of my Uruguay Centisimos coin.
    Your 5 Korun I have been bidding on some of the earlier dates that were made from silver.
     
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  11. This is my latest buy a 1944 dated Egyptian 2 Piastres coin featuring King Farouk and made from .500 silver.
    This coin replaced the earlier round coin that was made of a higher silver content of .833, the new coin was still minted at the Royal London Mint in England, not sure why they chose a hexagonal shape this time, but it means I have to get some more capsules to fit it in.
    This coin was made for one year only in 1944, all latest official sources (Krause/NGC etc) claim that only 32,000 coins were made, making it the rarest of all my coins so far, independent sources claim it was 32 million, I am believing the official accounts until they say otherwise, partly because King Farouk was really starting to losing favour with his populace at this time.
    Shown it with my earlier 2 Piastres, the 1944 is larger but the same weight.

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  12. This arrived today that I won in an auction, its a 1934 dated, New Zealand 3 pence, with George V, and made from .500 silver.
    This coin design was first minted in 1933 and was made for 4 years until replaced by coins featuring George VI in 1937.
    The reverse featured a traditional Maori battle club called a Patu, and this was used on all the 3 pence coins up to the reign of Elizabeth 2nd.
    Many were minted despite the 4 year run, but not many have survived in AU or UNC condition, most I see being pretty well worn.
    Production is as follows

    1933, 6,000,000
    1934, 6,000,000
    1935, 40,000
    1936, 2,760,000

    I have shown it with a modern UK 5p, its tiny.

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  13. This is my latest coin a 1941 dated, Australian Florin (2 Shillings), made from .925 silver, this coin featuring George VI was minted every year from 1938 to 1945, after 1945 the coins were made from only .500 silver, the coins were made mainly at the Melbourne Mint with a few being made in the USA by the San Francisco Mint during the war years.
    The coin featured a low relief portrait of George VI on the obverse and coat of arms with a Kangaroo and Emu on the reverse.
    1941 was one of the slightly lower mintage years with 7,614,000 made, not an easy coin to find in unc/au condition most likely due to their softness being of Sterling .925 silver, this one has quite a few bag marks when magnified despite having nearly all its mint lustre.

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