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<p>[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 314514, member: 6370"]I question whether collectors are DEMANDING slabbed coins as much as they just help your profit margin if you do it. Certainly there are plenty of people who will BUY a slabbed coin, whether they WANT it slabbed or just want that coin I have no clue. I have bought slabbed coins mainly because I like the COIN that just happened to be slabbed and it was still priced reasonably...I dont know any collector (for ancients and world mainly) that would give a damn if a coin is slabbed and they certainly wouldnt be suckered into paying 20-30% more for a coin that was... But what you are saying and doing are a prime case of what I think is wrong with this hobby and TPGs...and that is, of course, my own personal opinion...these people are probably not experienced or simply are okay with paying far more for a coin from a flipper / middleman because they have bought into it.</p><p> </p><p>I certainly DO trust myself...thats my whole point. I would not have made such a glaring error attributing one of my own coins, let alone if someone was paying me to do it...not that I would take money to do something so simple...something I do for free for people.</p><p> </p><p>I find that in the HOBBY of collecting there are trends, some good, some bad...often times such trends are taken as scripture when they are, in fact, just a construct that has little reason...or flimsy reasons, for being. Often people buy into such things whole heartedly never even examining what bill of goods they are being sold...or who is selling it and why. Like the rabid anti-cleaning craze that simply never existed before...now people wont even discuss it, they just default to 'OMG never clean a coooooin...pay someone to do it if YOU MUST!!!' or the way people seem to simply accept TPGs as a good thing for this hobby (people meaning collectors, not dealers, we have seen why dealers like them.)</p><p> </p><p>I will tell you one last thing. This is my hobby...I love the hobby...its an important part of my life but I make my money and it represents hours of my life I will never get back...when I buy a coin, I want it as cheap as possible and anything I see as just another group of people attempting to add that much more to the cost of already expensive coins, I will be against. Its your right to do so, you are just a 'businessman' as you say buying coins, throwing them in a slab, and reselling at well over the coins worth...Now those collectors in the hobby, whether they want that stupid slab or not, will have to pay YOUR over inflated price for the coin when if you were out of the picture, they could have just bought the coin at a reasonable price...and they are the ones who have the real love for that coin...its just a way to eek a bit more money our of the hobby for you, for a collector it is a prized possession they now have to pay inflated prices for. There is simply nothing a TPG does that cannot be done by an informed collector or group of collectors for free. Now if collectors are lazy and dont want to learn about this aspect of the hobby and would rather pay another to do this for them, no problem at all...its when great coins become 10-20% more expensive for real collectors who care about the coin and not what profit they can make from it because someone sealed it in a slab...that sucks. nuff said from me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Drusus, post: 314514, member: 6370"]I question whether collectors are DEMANDING slabbed coins as much as they just help your profit margin if you do it. Certainly there are plenty of people who will BUY a slabbed coin, whether they WANT it slabbed or just want that coin I have no clue. I have bought slabbed coins mainly because I like the COIN that just happened to be slabbed and it was still priced reasonably...I dont know any collector (for ancients and world mainly) that would give a damn if a coin is slabbed and they certainly wouldnt be suckered into paying 20-30% more for a coin that was... But what you are saying and doing are a prime case of what I think is wrong with this hobby and TPGs...and that is, of course, my own personal opinion...these people are probably not experienced or simply are okay with paying far more for a coin from a flipper / middleman because they have bought into it. I certainly DO trust myself...thats my whole point. I would not have made such a glaring error attributing one of my own coins, let alone if someone was paying me to do it...not that I would take money to do something so simple...something I do for free for people. I find that in the HOBBY of collecting there are trends, some good, some bad...often times such trends are taken as scripture when they are, in fact, just a construct that has little reason...or flimsy reasons, for being. Often people buy into such things whole heartedly never even examining what bill of goods they are being sold...or who is selling it and why. Like the rabid anti-cleaning craze that simply never existed before...now people wont even discuss it, they just default to 'OMG never clean a coooooin...pay someone to do it if YOU MUST!!!' or the way people seem to simply accept TPGs as a good thing for this hobby (people meaning collectors, not dealers, we have seen why dealers like them.) I will tell you one last thing. This is my hobby...I love the hobby...its an important part of my life but I make my money and it represents hours of my life I will never get back...when I buy a coin, I want it as cheap as possible and anything I see as just another group of people attempting to add that much more to the cost of already expensive coins, I will be against. Its your right to do so, you are just a 'businessman' as you say buying coins, throwing them in a slab, and reselling at well over the coins worth...Now those collectors in the hobby, whether they want that stupid slab or not, will have to pay YOUR over inflated price for the coin when if you were out of the picture, they could have just bought the coin at a reasonable price...and they are the ones who have the real love for that coin...its just a way to eek a bit more money our of the hobby for you, for a collector it is a prized possession they now have to pay inflated prices for. There is simply nothing a TPG does that cannot be done by an informed collector or group of collectors for free. Now if collectors are lazy and dont want to learn about this aspect of the hobby and would rather pay another to do this for them, no problem at all...its when great coins become 10-20% more expensive for real collectors who care about the coin and not what profit they can make from it because someone sealed it in a slab...that sucks. nuff said from me.[/QUOTE]
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