Things we just can't identify

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  1. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Glad I could help.
     
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  3. TJW

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    MysteryCoin_ancient_sizeOfOneCentOfUSA_thickAs4cents_00.png (I'm new. Please, is ~this~ where we post unknown mystery coins? I have a doozy.) Please any theories of what this bronze/ae/potin unit is? Size is same as a US penny. Thickness irregular but thick: at thickest is like 4 cents stacked (2 stacked pennies at “thinnest”). The blobby abstraction reminds me of some barbaric tribes' pieces. One side has a grain ear/ship/table/football-with-legs sort of shape and some letter-like marks resembling S and maybe an O. It's not clear which end is up. The other side looks to me like a crude man with 2 legs, one arm bent hand-to-hip, one arm lowered and holding a staff, possibly with a twined snake form. Is he Asclepius? Is it Etruscan? A Celtic copy of a Greek coin that pictured Asclepius? It's odd how they worked to make it look like specific somethings, but it's so abstracted that it's unclear just what was intended. It feels Celtic perhaps, but anyone with specifics would be appreciated.
     
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  4. cmezner

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  5. TJW

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    There were a handful of slightly similar elements on some of the 10 pages of coins there, but no exact matches --or even close ones. I hope someone has a closer match. I'm still wondering about Celtic. Thanks for the tip.
     
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  6. TJW

    TJW New Member

    anyone else?
     
  7. -monolith-

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    O.K. so here is the coin:
    As of yet unidentified. I know it is a Lydia, Tralles because of the reverse inscription and it is very similar to a Lydia, Tralles - Gordian III that I own (see below). Any ideas on what this coin is?
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    Province, City - Reign: Lydia, Tralles - ? (Geta as Cesar or Carcalla or Gordian III)
    Mint: Tralles
    Size: 17 mm
    Weight: 4.39 g
    Obverse: ???(C or E)ΓETA?KN; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust to right
    Reverse: ΤΡΑΛΛΙΑΝΩΝ, Basket with poppy and four ears of corn
    Note: reverse is similar to RPC Online VII.1, 500 but obverse has a different inscription


    This is a similar coin I own:
    LOT 506.jpg

    Province, City - Reign:
    Lydia, Tralles - Gordian III
    Mint: Tralles (238 – 244 AD)
    Obverse: ΓΟΡΔΙΑΝΟC ΑΥ, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear
    Reverse: ΤΡΑΛΛΙΑΝΩΝ, Basket with poppy and four ears of corn
    References: GPRC Lydia, 353; RPC Online VII.1, 500 (specimen #5)
     
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  8. Milo W

    Milo W Active Member

    These two coins have been driving me crazy for the last few months

    Athena facing right/Amphora?

    IMG_6783.png IMG_6784.png
    (It feels like it could be from Troas, Larissa. I’ve not been able to find much of any evidence though!)

    Zeus facing right/Club
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    For this coin, I have no clue.
     
  9. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

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    I am stuck on this one at the moment: an unidentified Umayyad Anonymous AE Fals of 4.2m 22x19mm circa 700-730 CE and from somewhere between Egypt and Iraq based on other coins that it came with in a lot. The lettering has thrown me as it seems to be rather randomly oriented?
     
  10. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Maybe Sicily, Menainon club and Hercules? M / HN on reverse? weight & diameter could be helpful.
     
  11. Noah Worke

    Noah Worke Well-Known Member

    I got this one from @lordmarcovan, and all that's known is that it's Greek and likely from Sicily. I'm not good with Greek coins, but it's an interesting mystery coin. In fact, the file name is "greekmystery.jpg".
    GreekMysteryOBV.jpg GreekMysteryREV.jpg
     
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  12. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    This will get you close: (weight & diameter would help - somewhere 2.3-4 grams? 15 mm?)
    Sicily, Carthaginian Domain, c. 330-320 BC. Æ
    Obv: Palm tree.
    Rev: Pegasos flying l.
    Ref: CNP 355; CNS III, 16; SNG Copenhagen 107; HGC 2, 1672
     
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