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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;+VGO.DVCKS, post: 5140909, member: 110504&quot;]Brilliant, [USER=16565]@seth[/USER] 77.&nbsp; Calls for another one, from a c. 1967 Telefunken LP I only could access from the public library across the bridge.</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]PvdoE6hn3-4[/MEDIA]</p><p>Regarding Thibaut&#039;s connection to the south, he was happy to spend most of his time in Navarre, as soon as he got the chance.&nbsp; (Evocative of how his contemporary, Friedrich /Federico II, preferred his maternal, Sicilian heritage to all those variously boring and scary Teutons.)&nbsp; This is another later-13th-c. ms., where he&#039;s happy, however posthumously, to show off the arms of Navarre instead of the the two bends of Champagne.</p><p><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Theobald_I_of_Navarre_2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>...Wish you could stop me.&nbsp; Since you can&#039;t, one cool thing about the northwest corner of &#039;Frankish&#039; Iberia (conspicuously including Aragon) is its effectively seamless connection to Occitanian language and culture.&nbsp; Which, just through the 12th century, travelled south, and north to Poitou, in northern Aquitaine, and east to Savoy and Lombardy.</p><p>...My favorite part of Bingley&#039;s reading is the introductory instrumental, on something called (from memory, back to the LP) a &#039;gitara saracena&#039; --Nope, lutes and ouds (like what he&#039;s posing with in the picture) are bigger than this, and more alike.&nbsp; But I always leaned toward seeing the element of Muslim musical influence on this distinctly secular European literature along the lines of the early mainstreaming of rock &#039;n&#039; roll.&nbsp; ...There&#039;s this, from the <i>Book of Games</i> of Alfonso IX of Castile and Leon (...also later 13th-century than one could wish).</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1206206[/ATTACH]</p><p>...Back to drinking songs, there&#039;s this, which, while blatantly revisionistic relative to the present context, manages a vaguely similar combination of cultural dynamics.&nbsp; [MEDIA=youtube]yl-qNKQWK34[/MEDIA][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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