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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 3794942, member: 13650"]Wow. I love that half. I would've sent it in too. I've had my fair share come back cleaned. Not always easy to tell if they'll get by. Sometimes they will be lenient on older stuff if it isn't terrible, as cleaning was an acceptable practice back in the day.</p><p><br /></p><p> There's no way I could say if that half was AU, MS or cleaned. They're the pros. I think it just has something to do with the color and the shininess. There's a certain look it should have and if doesn't, even if it was only dipped, details grade. That's a shame, I feel for you. </p><p> I have a 1916 MS-63 that's a nice toner. I paid well over list to get it. Again, how they determine that's a 63 and not a 64 I don't know. Must be some little mark they didn't like. Not a big value diff anyway. </p><p><br /></p><p> It seems it's very rare for these old 19th century coins to have made it through the "cleaning is acceptable period" unscathed. Anybody who owned them over decades and then wanted to re-sell would have had full incentive to clean them in some way. It's a wonder any of them made it through uncleaned. They almost would have had to been not known about or forgotten. Everybody wanted shiny coins. The toning and tarnish was ugly.... Until it wasn't acceptable anymore by modern standards.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 3794942, member: 13650"]Wow. I love that half. I would've sent it in too. I've had my fair share come back cleaned. Not always easy to tell if they'll get by. Sometimes they will be lenient on older stuff if it isn't terrible, as cleaning was an acceptable practice back in the day. There's no way I could say if that half was AU, MS or cleaned. They're the pros. I think it just has something to do with the color and the shininess. There's a certain look it should have and if doesn't, even if it was only dipped, details grade. That's a shame, I feel for you. I have a 1916 MS-63 that's a nice toner. I paid well over list to get it. Again, how they determine that's a 63 and not a 64 I don't know. Must be some little mark they didn't like. Not a big value diff anyway. It seems it's very rare for these old 19th century coins to have made it through the "cleaning is acceptable period" unscathed. Anybody who owned them over decades and then wanted to re-sell would have had full incentive to clean them in some way. It's a wonder any of them made it through uncleaned. They almost would have had to been not known about or forgotten. Everybody wanted shiny coins. The toning and tarnish was ugly.... Until it wasn't acceptable anymore by modern standards.[/QUOTE]
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