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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;The Penny Lady®, post: 903003, member: 16948&quot;]Rob, I&#039;m not sure when these were certified, I bought them all already holdered. But I can say that PCGS and NGC are being much more selective when they holder &quot;toned&quot; coins. Right now, it is definitely harder to get them to certify any copper with color.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And Doug, you may be right, but I can tell you that I paid big bucks for that coin, and sold it very quickly for even bigger bucks to someone who is thrilled with it. So whether it&#039;s natural or not, copper collectors love the look of coins like this - and high grade toned proofs are particularly in strong demand, especially when they look like this. Whether this 1883 proof has &quot;natural&quot; toning or not, whatever was/was not done to it did not ruin the blast bright mirrors or the gorgeous luster on this piece which is amazing and beautiful.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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