There ARE Things Other Than Doubled Stuff, You Know

And with all due respect, Jay; that's exactly the problem. You've been here less than two weeks and didn't live through the Detecto Show or the 11 million dollar "penny on dime" injected into every thread imaginable. You didn't repeatedly deal with the schmo incessantly insisting he had numerous examples of the 69-D 1C DDO and a handful 58-P 1C DDOs all while posting the most misleading information about them. I'm also guessing you haven't been called every other name in the book by folks for simply trying to educate and/or share the fruits of your time involved this hobby, or have dealt with the tantrums thrown by hundreds upon hundreds of others who've acted out in ways that make my earlier description appear tame in comparison.

Still, what you apparently fail to realize is that the offending post was made in response to a gentleman who has been here even longer than I have and knows firsthand exactly what I'm talking about. It wasn't just a general statement, but was one that many long-term members will certainly understand. I also assumed the winky reasonably suggestive, but perhaps I was mistaken.

Stick around for a while and you'll understand my point as well as Kurt's. This I promise you.

 

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I had to give up on NPR alwhile ago for this(along with other) very reason.

 

YouTube videos do not impact my search for doubled dies, I find it to be the progressive consumption of corn based spirits.

 

"Knowledge" is somewhere between free and fairly cheap, depending on how much effort you want to apply. Farther up the chain is "wisdom", which can ALSO be pretty cheap, but it takes a LONNNNNNG time to acquire it. "The truth" is always just out of reach, kinda like functioning cold fusion.

 

Dang...I'm impressed.

 

I find myself giving "likes" to new posters who have found a million-dollar double dye and then backing off when they are informed that they have nothing. Sometimes it's hard to back off.

 

I do know Pennsylvania has a few "at large" NPOL winners. I don't know who the other "standard" one is, but I do know two of the at-large ones from here. One is Kerry Wetterstrom, former publisher of The Celator, and another is Tom Uram, PAN bigwig, new ANA Board of Governors member and member of the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee in Washington, where he repeatedly stands next to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for novelty photos. Most of the NPOL winners have published major numismatic books. None, to my knowledge, either make or watch YouTube videos.

Don't tell anybody, strictly hush-hush, but I hear there's a YouTube video out there, you GOTTA keep this on the down-low, of Tom Uram slamming the rock right over Kareem, who is like, flatfooted.

{Tom is a 5 foot 6-ish older guy with a bad eye, if you want to know why that's funny.}

 

You took my comment the wrong way. Are you that upset or angry? I criticized no one. 6 pages of posts and replies and most of them display anger or are defensive in nature. Someone posted recently, maybe even you, that coins are slowly going the way of baseball cards and stamps. If new collectors didn't join and ask us seasoned collectors the same questions over and over would there ever be any future collectors? Good night.

 

Yeah, but I collect circulated coins and polish them with Brasso to make them Proof 70 quality grade !! Don't tell me they're not, because I saw a YouTube video on how to do it.

 

I use a rock tumbler on my coins .

 

The two posts below yours are by folks who “get it”. The YouTube newbs are NOT GOING TO SAVE THIS HOBBY! They’re only going to ruin it.

 

No one here can argue that the internet, is killing the local coin shows ..

 

Does anybody think I could of went to a local coin show and found this coin for $9.99 cents ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-D-Lin...zdIAAOqLp3n9dGw14wwhc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

I don’t know whether you could have or not. I DO know I couldn’t possibly care less if I could. IF I cared about varieties, and I don’t, I believe I could just as easily “pick” this from a local show dealer’s book stock, because chances are HE doesn’t care about varieties either.

 

Or know what they are and wouldn't have one either .
Why, because he doesn't do, or know varieties .

 

Correct. If he had one, he would NEITHER know NOR CARE that he did. This is a brand new (short) month. Just for the local coin clubs I know and care about, I could spend 10 of February’s 28 evenings at an old school coin club meeting, where I would interact face-to-face with a key staffer of CNG (Lancaster, PA and London, England), several members of the Bust Half Nut club, an officer of the National Fly-In club, “the guy” at “the contractor” whose job is working with the U.S. Mint on changing the cupronickel coins alloy, about 8-10 dealers and/or dealer employees, maybe 50-100 goldbugs and silver stackers, specialists in Civil War Tokens, medieval British coins, Fractional Currency, Maundy Money coins, and counterfeit coins. What I probably would NOT encounter is even ONE GUY who gives a rip about Lincoln cent varieties. Ike dollars? Yes, at least two guys. Lincoln cents? No.

 

Who said this hobby needs saving? And from what? How are the YT newbs ruining this hobby? The arrogance from you that YOU are the authority on what people should be doing with their coin hobby is appalling. People who gets into this hobby are either in it for the love of the coins or for the money, they decide, not you or anyone else. They’re the ones spending the money and spending their time on it. If they get serious enough, they’ll do they’re own research and maybe eventually fall in love with some coins that they become collectors. Point is, regardless of how they got into it, encourage them instead of blasting them for watching youtube videos. If not for YT, a lot won’t even be starting looking into coins.

If you have an issue with people doing this for the money, why not go after the auctioneers, the coin shows, the dealers? They’re the ones that drives the money part of this hobby.

 

Correct . Cause if he did, we would know that it's a 100 dollar coin in RD MS-63 shape .. with the cost of the table for the show ( 250 bucks a day ) he's going to want 40 bucks all day long ..

Keep in mind, I paid $9.99 cents for it on the internet ...

 

I already do, which you’d know if you were paying attention.

Here’s the problem, Jay. This hobby is having an existential crisis of a demographic nature. The generation of serious numismatists is dying off. They’re (we’re?) rapidly getting old. I had a near-death stroke at age 54, and I am daily aware of the “crawl of demography”. Here’s the point. Some on CT, INCLUDING CT MANAGEMENT, insist “Don’t worry, numismatics is just fine. Look at all our new members. (Cue the whistler) Don’t worry, be happy.”

Well sorry, but that’s just plain old “happy talk horse manure”. Are the dying old timers being adequately replaced NUMERICALLY? Maybe, but even that’s not at all clear. What is absolutely certain is they’re NOT being replaced QUALITATIVELY. YouTube videos are so loaded with horrible disinformation that it truly is a net negative scourge on this hobby. They. Suck.

Shut off the computer. Join a coin club. Buy a book. Attend a show. Do “real” numismatics, not rummaging through cent rolls and photographing corroded crap.

 

I'm new at CT...can you link me to your old threads blasting auctioneers and coin shows and dealers and ebay buyers/sellers? Only one I've seen on my short time here is your outrage about YT videos. So you're right, I wasn't paying too much attention to your old posts.