Theodosius I or II

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  1. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    Hello everyone,

    I recently acquired a lot containing two coins of Theodosius, but I am not sure how to tell whether it is Theodosius I (http://www.numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.9.cyz.21C ) or Theodosius II (http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.10.theo_ii_e.419 ). They look almost identical to me.

    Apparently there is a way to tell since a very similar coin was sold at Sicona and identified as "extremely rare" type of Theodosius II (Auction 37, Lot 31, https://auktionen.sincona.com/Auktion/KatalogArchiv#undefined)
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    Any help much appreciated,
    Thomas.
     
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  3. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    If I read Bruck right, only Theodosius I struck that coin. Unless Bruck was unaware of some rarity. Will try to post Bruck page next.
     
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  4. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Theodosius I. The Sincona spec is also very likely Theodosius I from the same series. If there is indeed a Theodosius II with this reverse (not the known VOT XXX / V) as recorded in RIC X 419, that coin should be ca. 10mm less than 1g weight with unbroken obverse legend.
     
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  5. Gavin Richardson

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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I also vote for Theodosius I
     
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  7. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    If its Theodosius I why was it sold for 150 CHF? I have seen similar examples sold for less then 10 USD... The secound coin seems to match your measurments. (do you concider it an unbroken legend?) it matches The photo that @Gavin Richardson Posted.

    Thanks!
    Thomas,
     
  8. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    If it was advertised as RIC 419 some thought that it was worth it perhaps. But I don't think it is RIC 419 but a regular Theodosius I. And your second coin seems to be struck on an irregular flan, which I doubt it's 10mm in diameter. Both your coins should be about 12-14mm and both have the broken legend specific to Theodosius I.
     
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  9. Thomas c

    Thomas c Veni, vidi, vici, Julius Caesar

    Thanks!
    I have catalogued both as Theodosius I!

    Thomas,
     
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