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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3533837, member: 56859"]What is it about <i>money</i> that prompted emperors to accept shoddily crafted coins? Clearly it was acceptable to create beautiful art in other media.</p><p><br /></p><p>Maybe the careless and sloppy portraiture and generally shoddy coins were emperors trying to distance themselves from the mundane, like "I don't care about money so I don't want any lifelike portrait of me to appear on coins"? Or, perhaps they felt it was more Christ-like to eschew money, so no effort was made to create well-crafted or visually pleasing money?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I wonder the same thing.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't wrap all Byzantine coins into the same ugly package... there are some coins where it is obvious that a more skilled artist was at work. In general though it is not visually pleasing, especially the bronzes. I don't see it as an attempt at abstraction... just bad or careless art.</p><p><br /></p><p>An assortment of Bad Byzness:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_3aaad998eeaf4432a07f14c298a7d35d.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Justin I</b></p><p>518-527 CE</p><p>AE follis, 32 mm, 15.6 gm</p><p>Nikomedia</p><p>Obv: DN IVSTINVS PP AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right</p><p>Rev: Large M, star to left, cross above, star to right, officina letter below, mintmark NIKM</p><p>Ref: SB 83</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/justini-sb111-2-jpg.454185/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Justin I </b></p><p>518-527 CE</p><p>AE Pentanummium, Antioch. Diameter of each is ~13 mm.</p><p>Obv: DN IVSTINVS PP AV; pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right</p><p>Rev: Tyche of Antioch, turreted, seated left within columned shrine with half submerged figure of river-god Orontes swimming at her feet; retrograde epsilon to left</p><p>Ref: SB 111, DOC 57</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Gold didn't necessarily get the VIP treatment either:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/tremissisreshoot_edited-1-jpg.455530/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><b>Constantine IV</b></p><p>668-685 CE</p><p>AV tremissis, 1.4 gm, 17 mm</p><p>Constantinople mint</p><p>Obv: DN CONSTANTINUS PPAG; Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right</p><p>Rev: VICTORIA AVGUS; cross potent; CONOB</p><p>Ref: SB 1162[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3533837, member: 56859"]What is it about [I]money[/I] that prompted emperors to accept shoddily crafted coins? Clearly it was acceptable to create beautiful art in other media. Maybe the careless and sloppy portraiture and generally shoddy coins were emperors trying to distance themselves from the mundane, like "I don't care about money so I don't want any lifelike portrait of me to appear on coins"? Or, perhaps they felt it was more Christ-like to eschew money, so no effort was made to create well-crafted or visually pleasing money? I wonder the same thing. I can't wrap all Byzantine coins into the same ugly package... there are some coins where it is obvious that a more skilled artist was at work. In general though it is not visually pleasing, especially the bronzes. I don't see it as an attempt at abstraction... just bad or careless art. An assortment of Bad Byzness: [IMG]https://static.wixstatic.com/media/ae43f8_3aaad998eeaf4432a07f14c298a7d35d.jpg[/IMG] [B]Justin I[/B] 518-527 CE AE follis, 32 mm, 15.6 gm Nikomedia Obv: DN IVSTINVS PP AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right Rev: Large M, star to left, cross above, star to right, officina letter below, mintmark NIKM Ref: SB 83 [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/justini-sb111-2-jpg.454185/[/IMG] [B]Justin I [/B] 518-527 CE AE Pentanummium, Antioch. Diameter of each is ~13 mm. Obv: DN IVSTINVS PP AV; pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right Rev: Tyche of Antioch, turreted, seated left within columned shrine with half submerged figure of river-god Orontes swimming at her feet; retrograde epsilon to left Ref: SB 111, DOC 57 Gold didn't necessarily get the VIP treatment either: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/tremissisreshoot_edited-1-jpg.455530/[/IMG] [B]Constantine IV[/B] 668-685 CE AV tremissis, 1.4 gm, 17 mm Constantinople mint Obv: DN CONSTANTINUS PPAG; Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right Rev: VICTORIA AVGUS; cross potent; CONOB Ref: SB 1162[/QUOTE]
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