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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 25276633, member: 73489"]I like to study monetary history -- yup, read Friedman & Schwartz' <i>magnus opus </i>in college <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> -- and doing some readings the last year or so with books spanning the gold standard to 1921 Recession and The Great Depression.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><b>The changes in the writings concerning gold, silver, and legal tender are fascinating. </b> </span>Even as a young collector (or spender of bills ! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ) I never really paid too much attention to them but you can see there are big differences and the changes over the years WERE important.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff8000">Here's a Gold Certificate,</span></b> and the seal writings clearly state you are entitled to Gold...and the writing at the bottom of the obverse says gold coin (Eagles, DEs, etc.)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1613412[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Notice that it is good for <b>ALL DEBTS with no exceptions.</b></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></b></p><p><b><span style="color: #ff0000">Next we have a United States Note (Red Seal) </span></b>which states it is legal tender....for all debts public and private.....but then says <b>"except duties on imports and interest on the national debt." </b></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1613413[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Why these obscure exclusions ? Because the Treasury didn't want a gold drain out of the U.S. so NOT allowing these to be used for duties on imports and interest on the national debt helped towards that goal.</p><p><br /></p><p>Next up, a <b><span style="color: #00b359">1928 Federal Reserve Note which</span></b> says that is was redeemable in gold...on demand....at the U.S. Treasury (so you had to goto Washington, DC I guess).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1613414[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>What I find interesting is that at 1st glance this bill looks like a hybrid: it's a FRN...it's worth $20 dollars ("bearer on demand" language at bottom)...<b>but it has the quasi-gold certificate language above the seal. </b> But while you could get gold at the Treasury, it's unclear if the FRB's that you went to could pay you off with gold or a pair of $10 bills at their choice... or your choice. Again, unless Federal Reserve Bank means a MEMBER bank, then FRB means you would need to goto 1 of the 12 actual physical locations which would be a PITA. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, <b><span style="color: #336600">after we went off the Gold Standard we have this FRN</span></b> which says that the note is legal tender for ALL debts public and private with no exceptions regarding national debt or imports.</p><p><br /></p><p>I guess "redeemable in lawful money" (isn't this bill lawful money ?<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ) means a pair of $20's and a $10 bill. Also known as....change !! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1613415[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 25276633, member: 73489"]I like to study monetary history -- yup, read Friedman & Schwartz' [I]magnus opus [/I]in college :D -- and doing some readings the last year or so with books spanning the gold standard to 1921 Recession and The Great Depression. [COLOR=#0000ff][B]The changes in the writings concerning gold, silver, and legal tender are fascinating. [/B] [/COLOR]Even as a young collector (or spender of bills ! :D ) I never really paid too much attention to them but you can see there are big differences and the changes over the years WERE important. [B][COLOR=#ff8000]Here's a Gold Certificate,[/COLOR][/B] and the seal writings clearly state you are entitled to Gold...and the writing at the bottom of the obverse says gold coin (Eagles, DEs, etc.) [ATTACH=full]1613412[/ATTACH] Notice that it is good for [B]ALL DEBTS with no exceptions. [COLOR=#ff0000] Next we have a United States Note (Red Seal) [/COLOR][/B]which states it is legal tender....for all debts public and private.....but then says [B]"except duties on imports and interest on the national debt." [/B] [ATTACH=full]1613413[/ATTACH] Why these obscure exclusions ? Because the Treasury didn't want a gold drain out of the U.S. so NOT allowing these to be used for duties on imports and interest on the national debt helped towards that goal. Next up, a [B][COLOR=#00b359]1928 Federal Reserve Note which[/COLOR][/B] says that is was redeemable in gold...on demand....at the U.S. Treasury (so you had to goto Washington, DC I guess). [ATTACH=full]1613414[/ATTACH] What I find interesting is that at 1st glance this bill looks like a hybrid: it's a FRN...it's worth $20 dollars ("bearer on demand" language at bottom)...[B]but it has the quasi-gold certificate language above the seal. [/B] But while you could get gold at the Treasury, it's unclear if the FRB's that you went to could pay you off with gold or a pair of $10 bills at their choice... or your choice. Again, unless Federal Reserve Bank means a MEMBER bank, then FRB means you would need to goto 1 of the 12 actual physical locations which would be a PITA. :D Lastly, [B][COLOR=#336600]after we went off the Gold Standard we have this FRN[/COLOR][/B] which says that the note is legal tender for ALL debts public and private with no exceptions regarding national debt or imports. I guess "redeemable in lawful money" (isn't this bill lawful money ?:D ) means a pair of $20's and a $10 bill. Also known as....change !! :D [ATTACH=full]1613415[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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