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Message:: [QUOTE="imrich, post: 1497102, member: 22331"]A Scam Has Been Committed? I believe you'll find in most jurisdictions that a scam has already been committed if in financial transactions the perpetrator has publicly declared fulfillment of promised obligations, but has not. In this case the perpetrator publicly stated that he had shipped all items purchased from him, and had prior to obligation fulfillment declaration notified the buyers of the tracking information. A subsequent buyer post (this thread OP) stated that he had not yet been informed. Also I believe the same is true when the perpetrator has stated to have completed obligations, will no longer offer in this venue, but continues a solicitation for funds. Regardless of whether the obligations have been met, which the OP declared not, the declaration of intent to discontinue sales, while continuing to solicit funds, I believe would be adjudicated as a scam. A published definition of SCAM is as follows: "A confidence trick, confidence game, or con for short (also known as a scam) is an attempt to intentionally mislead a person or persons (known as the mark) usually with the goal of financial or other gain." I believe you'll find that a scam is an attempt to defraud. Fraud is defined: "any act, expression, omission, or concealment that deceives another to his or her disadvantage" Just my learned understandings :thumb:[/QUOTE]