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<p>[QUOTE="akeady, post: 8108989, member: 83175"]I believe the victoriatus was probably worth 3/4 of a denarius, so 7.5 asses. [Edit - it's far too late here - they weighed about 3/4 of s denarius but had less silver, so they were probably worth less than 7.5 asses] Later on, the victoriatus design is used on quinarii, half a denarius, which by then was 16 asses - it may have made sense that worn, lower grade silver victoriati were passing for half the value of an unworn denarius and so replaced by new quinarius issues.</p><p><br /></p><p>Harl calls the earlier quadrigati denarii, but most writers don't refer to coins before the 4.5g denarius with Roma and the Dioscuri of ~212/211BC as denarii.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, the gold to silver ratio at around 211BC was about 8 to 1 in Rome, based on the 60 asses coins weighing around 3.3g and the denarii about 4.5g.</p><p><br /></p><p>Harl says this deliberately undervalued the gold and the gold coins were mostly melted later.</p><p><br /></p><p>Later issues changed this ratio to 12 to 1 you mention - Caesar's aurei are around 8g of gold (40 to a Roman pound) and are worth 25 denarii, which weighed around 4g of silver (84 to a Roman pound). That ratio holds for the rest of the Roman period, as far as I know!</p><p><br /></p><p>ATB,</p><p>Aidan.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="akeady, post: 8108989, member: 83175"]I believe the victoriatus was probably worth 3/4 of a denarius, so 7.5 asses. [Edit - it's far too late here - they weighed about 3/4 of s denarius but had less silver, so they were probably worth less than 7.5 asses] Later on, the victoriatus design is used on quinarii, half a denarius, which by then was 16 asses - it may have made sense that worn, lower grade silver victoriati were passing for half the value of an unworn denarius and so replaced by new quinarius issues. Harl calls the earlier quadrigati denarii, but most writers don't refer to coins before the 4.5g denarius with Roma and the Dioscuri of ~212/211BC as denarii. Anyway, the gold to silver ratio at around 211BC was about 8 to 1 in Rome, based on the 60 asses coins weighing around 3.3g and the denarii about 4.5g. Harl says this deliberately undervalued the gold and the gold coins were mostly melted later. Later issues changed this ratio to 12 to 1 you mention - Caesar's aurei are around 8g of gold (40 to a Roman pound) and are worth 25 denarii, which weighed around 4g of silver (84 to a Roman pound). That ratio holds for the rest of the Roman period, as far as I know! ATB, Aidan.[/QUOTE]
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