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<p>[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 1062421, member: 2972"]That's not quite an accurate summary of my belief. What I believe is that its harder for us to tell the difference between natural and artificial envelope/album toning because of the nature of the toning that results (i.e. the natural and artificial means both begin with the same intentional act), its easy to speed up the process artificially, and the resulting toning harder to distinguish as natural or artificial.</p><p><br /></p><p>Said a bit more directly, album/envelope toning is easier to duplicate than, for instance, bag toning. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What series are the most likely targets for these coin doctors?</p><p><br /></p><p>I would guess....The ones that are easy to duplicate, easy to get past PCGS/NGC, and the ones that drive the most profit and are easiest to sell.</p><p><br /></p><p>The mine field here are the coins that are given a "silent upgrade" because of their either (a) their (artificial) toning/eye-appeal or (b) because the toning hides other problems that would normally make the coin grade down a point or two (the seated dollar above is a PERFECT example of this, and so are the blue IHCs that went from PCGS 64 to NGC 66!!!).</p><p><br /></p><p>What do I think? Hmmm.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think that Morgan bag toners are virtually unique and un-reproducable, at least for now, and that sets them apart. This is also priced into their premium. Heaven forbid this foundation of the toner market falls, because those coins have a long way to fall at 10x to 20x wholesale.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think that I have been told by long time collectors of the series that tab toning has been duplicated, yet still they sell for large multiples. I don't follow the series nearly closely enough to comment in greater detail.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think that collecting high-grade modern toners is too risky for my blood. Said a bit differently, I like paying more for the "coin" than the "toning". But that's clearly and obviously JUST ME, and that credo certainly limits the types of toners I collect. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Leadfoot, post: 1062421, member: 2972"]That's not quite an accurate summary of my belief. What I believe is that its harder for us to tell the difference between natural and artificial envelope/album toning because of the nature of the toning that results (i.e. the natural and artificial means both begin with the same intentional act), its easy to speed up the process artificially, and the resulting toning harder to distinguish as natural or artificial. Said a bit more directly, album/envelope toning is easier to duplicate than, for instance, bag toning. What series are the most likely targets for these coin doctors? I would guess....The ones that are easy to duplicate, easy to get past PCGS/NGC, and the ones that drive the most profit and are easiest to sell. The mine field here are the coins that are given a "silent upgrade" because of their either (a) their (artificial) toning/eye-appeal or (b) because the toning hides other problems that would normally make the coin grade down a point or two (the seated dollar above is a PERFECT example of this, and so are the blue IHCs that went from PCGS 64 to NGC 66!!!). What do I think? Hmmm. I think that Morgan bag toners are virtually unique and un-reproducable, at least for now, and that sets them apart. This is also priced into their premium. Heaven forbid this foundation of the toner market falls, because those coins have a long way to fall at 10x to 20x wholesale. I think that I have been told by long time collectors of the series that tab toning has been duplicated, yet still they sell for large multiples. I don't follow the series nearly closely enough to comment in greater detail. I think that collecting high-grade modern toners is too risky for my blood. Said a bit differently, I like paying more for the "coin" than the "toning". But that's clearly and obviously JUST ME, and that credo certainly limits the types of toners I collect. :)[/QUOTE]
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