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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 1061983, member: 26302&quot;]Great points, and the way around them is to pay and grade based upon DETAILS, not artificial connivances like soft strike, cabinet friction, etc that US coins fall into. Ancients are graded, (or were until TPG&#039;ers try to impose US standards), on how much detail is on a coin, how much luster, etc regardless of reason.</p><p><br /></p><p>Seems pretty dang simple to me. US collectors will never switch, but US coin grading simply baffles me nowadays in the XF-BU area.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding percentage AT/NT toned, I don&#039;t have a guess but I have seen gentlemen produce in a day from a dipped coin a coin looking exactly like it came out of a blue folder, sitting there for 40 years. It scared me so much I stopped that day buying toned coins, afraid of what the toning was hiding, (that is why they did it, they dipped and sometimes tooled a coin, and then retoned to cover up the tooling marks). I love pretty toning, especially silver, but too risky to buy heavily toned coins without a LOT of studying it. This is why toning was discounted, it takes more work to prove the coin isn&#039;t tampered with. Maybe with slabbing nowadays that risk is gone.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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