The Toning Premium Thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Lehigh96, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    That coin is stunning! I would pay $650 for it.
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Just curious Paul, you would pay 3.25x book for that little bit of toning around the edge on the mercury? I thought you liked coins with full toning, and this coin is 90% white. Just trying to read and learn.
     
  4. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    ... and I bet Dime would sell it to you for that today ; )

    Nice coin,,, and I like these that have accent toning that enhance the white over most other toners.... especially since I've seen them go for no premium or little premium before... I'll guess Dime got for pcgs price guide .. $200
     
  5. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    $275 is my guess.
    And I too like it. It's a nice one.
     
  6. seasnake

    seasnake Junior Member

    $300, for some reason every issue I start to collect with rainbow tones suddenly becomes popular, just started fooling around with mercs and I see some high prices lately. Nice coin!
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    First of all, I don't know what is keeping that coin out of an MS68 FB holder. Maybe the photo is hiding something.

    I don't pay a premium for toning, I pay for eye appeal, and this coin has it in abundance. The toning pattern on this coin gives the best of both worlds. The color provides a level of originality and beauty that simply can't be matched by a blast white coin, but at the same time, the surfaces are not hidden by the toning. The coin appears to have gleaming luster from the photo and the vibrancy of the colors is off the charts. Anytime my initial reaction to a coin is WOW, I will pay a premium to obtain it. If Dimefreak paid less than $650, he should just be thankful it was not sold in an auction setting with me as a rival bidder.
     
  8. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    I've missed some nice coins on this thread lately. Here's another one. I'll go $350.
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    $550

    BTW, Paul, I would guess that finger print is keeping it out of the 68 slab.
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    So the price you quoted was not really for toning, but really for a quality premium. I was suspecting that, since it is a nice coin. My concern would be that someone reading your response would think that the slight toning was driving a 3.25x premium, so that is why I wanted you to elaborate.
     
  11. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    Wow, interesting responses. I am glad to see a toning enthusiast such as Lehigh echo's my thoughts exactly. The Dime actually was not even part of the intial deal. A member from PCGS had posted two simliar toned coins with knockout prices on them. He wanted $300 for this MS68
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    $300 was book price and I thought the coin was very attractive so I took it and the MS66 he had offered for $45. Well we got to talking and apparently he sent a mini hoar of 1941 dimes with similar toning to PCGS and after he sold me these two he would only have one left. Well me being me I asked if I could see and acquire the last one. He sent a picture and told me $500 Delivers all three. So essentially I paid $165 for the MS67FB. So having the MS68 MS67FB and MS66 all from the same hoard I must say I agree with Paul. not only doe the MS68 have more nicks but I feel it has less to offer overall than the MS67FB. The only conclusion I could come up with is what RLM said. They must have held it back because of the finger print which is not very obvious in hand. A knockout coin for the grade for sure! At at auction setting I cant say I would have went $650 from the photos but in person there is no question I would have!!!:thumb:

    Baha is up

    PS here is the MS66 for kicks and giggles. ( its the default coin on Coinfacts.)
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  12. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    You scored a nice hat trick but aren't those pictures of the same coin? Look at the striations in the reverse field under AMERICA and the water (or milk) spot at the bottom of the RI in addition to the spot southwest of UNUM.

    Oh I see, different obvs. but you posted the same rev. for both.
     
  13. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

  14. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    I edited the reverse of the MS68...They all confuse the heck out of me....lol....I liked that Heritage coin but remember the FUN show when I got hosed on the coin I had been after for 3 months???? Well It popped up on PCGS and I got it!!! Pic will be posted as soon as it gets here ( Any day) and I get it to Shane!!! So pretty much by better half is watching by spending. Looks like Ill be a watcher for a little bit now. :)
     
  15. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    Congrats! You must have been doing something right to get such good karma. :)
    Looking forward to the pics. Did you pay as much as you were prepared to in the auction?
     
  16. Dimefreak

    Dimefreak Senior Member

    The dealer is well respected and frequents this site. So as long as I actually receive the coin I can say I am very pleased. Ill just say he was very generous with the price of the coin. Even let me know after I paid that he accidentally charged me $25 too much and will be sending the $25 refund.
     
  17. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    ngc ms67 star
    last year or so.... maybe the year before.
     

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  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The FMP ought to be about $800, so I will guess $1200.
     
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'll say $1350 , nice looking coin but nothing like some of the others .
    rzage
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I like the coin and it has pleasing eye appeal but nothing I would consider monster. I think it drove a small premium: $950
     
  21. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    I really like Morgans like this one: subtle and even. Unfortunately your photos are tending toward the red (warm) which is denying the blue-green at the bottom.

    I also think it drove a small premium and will undercut Lehigh a bit with $920.

    PS: I would've gone a little lower if it were a more recent purchase but I'm trying to cover the higher FMV that untoned Morgans had a year and a half or so ago. I admit this is incomplete reasoning because I don't know what the toning market was like then.
     
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