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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4998713, member: 110504"][USER=109923]@John Conduitt[/USER], thanks for a magnificent initial post, with top-drawer content and coins to match.</p><p>[USER=85693]@Marsyas Mike[/USER], a terrific halfgroat ...and anything in print from this period kind of Pavlovianly makes me sit up in my chair. I only wish I could find the .jpgs for the run of late Tudor -early Stuart halfgroats and pennies I got, that long ago, mostly because they're just that cool. As you, for one, are <i>extremely</i> likely to know, the 'Rosa sine spina' meme begins as an element in the legends of Queen Elizabeth. ...(Ditto: ) The Tudors effectively appropriated the rhetoric of the Lancastrian and Yorkist roses, along with the heraldry.</p><p>In a different medium, this is one instance of the already revisionist Tudor rose continuing into the early Stuart period.[ATTACH=full]1200114[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1200116[/ATTACH]</p><p>If you go to the bottom of this website, there's another example, better in very way, that was excavated from the house of an early settler of what's now Maine. (...Right, an ancestor. Which got me looking for ones on UKebay. The one I landed was found in --without checking-- East Anglia.)</p><p><a href="http://oldberwick.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=472&Itemid=278" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://oldberwick.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=472&Itemid=278" rel="nofollow">http://oldberwick.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=472&Itemid=278</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4998713, member: 110504"][USER=109923]@John Conduitt[/USER], thanks for a magnificent initial post, with top-drawer content and coins to match. [USER=85693]@Marsyas Mike[/USER], a terrific halfgroat ...and anything in print from this period kind of Pavlovianly makes me sit up in my chair. I only wish I could find the .jpgs for the run of late Tudor -early Stuart halfgroats and pennies I got, that long ago, mostly because they're just that cool. As you, for one, are [I]extremely[/I] likely to know, the 'Rosa sine spina' meme begins as an element in the legends of Queen Elizabeth. ...(Ditto: ) The Tudors effectively appropriated the rhetoric of the Lancastrian and Yorkist roses, along with the heraldry. In a different medium, this is one instance of the already revisionist Tudor rose continuing into the early Stuart period.[ATTACH=full]1200114[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1200116[/ATTACH] If you go to the bottom of this website, there's another example, better in very way, that was excavated from the house of an early settler of what's now Maine. (...Right, an ancestor. Which got me looking for ones on UKebay. The one I landed was found in --without checking-- East Anglia.) [URL]http://oldberwick.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=472&Itemid=278[/URL][/QUOTE]
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