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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2876839, member: 24314"]IMHO, <b>NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE</b>! Very educational, I may change my opinion. I'll write more later, busy at the moment as I'm "smoothing some stuff." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>maridvnvm, posted:"Who would care to define tooling and smoothing. I have seen many, many definitions and most of them different. My definitions are as follows:-</p><p><br /></p><p>Smoothing: "<b>Removal of metal from the fields of a coin to create a smoother appearance to the surface of the coin</b>." [<span style="color: rgb(0, 179, 0)">Agree</span>] Removal of layers of patina, encrustations etc. are variations on cleaning and NOT smoothing. [<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">but you are making the surface smoother - right? So which is it, smoothing or variations of cleaning? See the problem?<span style="color: #000000">]</span></span></p><p><br /></p><p>Tooling: "<b>Removal of metal from the devices or legends to either sharpen the design or to modify aspects of the design."</b> [Agree]</p><p><br /></p><p>lrbguy <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, posted: You guys would do well to learn about the formation of patina as we find it on our coins, specifically bronze. Patina is not a mere coloration. Patination (formation of patina) is the conversion of the metallic coin surface into a layer of a non-metallic chemical salt of the coin metal itself. What this means is that removing adhesions above the surface level of the coin is simply cleaning. But removal of material below the surface level is a removal of some of the original coin surface itself, and that is an irreparable alteration of the original coin, no matter how nicely it "presents." If "smoothing" only takes place above the original surface, it is not an alteration of the coin, merely its appearance. But if "smoothing" dips into the surface level to "even things up" it is an intentional alteration of the original coin and should be described with the coin." <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b><i><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">LOVE IT!!! BEST ANSWER NOMINATION!</span></i></b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2876839, member: 24314"]IMHO, [B]NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE[/B]! Very educational, I may change my opinion. I'll write more later, busy at the moment as I'm "smoothing some stuff." :jawdrop::facepalm::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::D:p maridvnvm, posted:"Who would care to define tooling and smoothing. I have seen many, many definitions and most of them different. My definitions are as follows:- Smoothing: "[B]Removal of metal from the fields of a coin to create a smoother appearance to the surface of the coin[/B]." [[COLOR=rgb(0, 179, 0)]Agree[/COLOR]] Removal of layers of patina, encrustations etc. are variations on cleaning and NOT smoothing. [[COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]but you are making the surface smoother - right? So which is it, smoothing or variations of cleaning? See the problem?[COLOR=#000000]][/COLOR][/COLOR] Tooling: "[B]Removal of metal from the devices or legends to either sharpen the design or to modify aspects of the design."[/B] [Agree] lrbguy :bookworm::cigar:, posted: You guys would do well to learn about the formation of patina as we find it on our coins, specifically bronze. Patina is not a mere coloration. Patination (formation of patina) is the conversion of the metallic coin surface into a layer of a non-metallic chemical salt of the coin metal itself. What this means is that removing adhesions above the surface level of the coin is simply cleaning. But removal of material below the surface level is a removal of some of the original coin surface itself, and that is an irreparable alteration of the original coin, no matter how nicely it "presents." If "smoothing" only takes place above the original surface, it is not an alteration of the coin, merely its appearance. But if "smoothing" dips into the surface level to "even things up" it is an intentional alteration of the original coin and should be described with the coin." :joyful: [B][I][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]LOVE IT!!! BEST ANSWER NOMINATION![/COLOR][/I][/B][/QUOTE]
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