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<p>[QUOTE="ButItsSoShiny, post: 1365264, member: 29168"]If you don't know what poster i am talking about, then how do you know what was posted for me to call them a troll? I couldn't even say "this coin game" without getting jumped on. I have no problem with a discussion, but i felt the other poster was a bit heavy handed, nit picking and basically looking for an arguement. What you and I are having is an exchange of opinions, and that is something different. No one is trying to twist what is said like 2 Republicans trying to win a nomination, no one is trying to belittle the other person by pointing out typos or grammar mistakes (i'm not saying the other person did that, just making a point) or anything of that nature.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, we are not talking about the same thing. Let me sum it up with an example. 2 coins go up on ebay, they are both 1893 CC Morgan Dollars. One is in a reputable grading company slab and is graded VF. The other is in a cardboard coin holder with VF written on it. The book price for a VF is $713 while the next grade down is $380, so there is a $333 difference between 1 grade. At the end of the auction, do you think</p><p>A) They will sell for the same price, give or take a buck or 2</p><p>B) The professionally graded coin will sell for more.</p><p>C) The cardboard holdered coin will sell for more.</p><p><br /></p><p>The question isn't what would a serious coin collector pay, or what a rookie would pay. Its what will the auction end at.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Unless i misunderstood you, you said a rookie/uneducated buyer would pay more than its worth. In other words it sells for more, the only difference is it ends up in the collection of a uneducated/lazy collector. And another poster thanked someone for their view because they were able to make money buying coins raw, slabbing them and reselling them. Right there is someone with real life experience in what i am saying.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>But it is proof of value since its graded and can therefore the current value (which can change) can be looked up in an industry standard value book. An insurance company can argue with someone who self-graded their coins, or at least beat them down on a payout. Its hard for the insurance company to argue with the grade when you had it done by a third party company and have it documented - thats the point i am trying to make.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ButItsSoShiny, post: 1365264, member: 29168"]If you don't know what poster i am talking about, then how do you know what was posted for me to call them a troll? I couldn't even say "this coin game" without getting jumped on. I have no problem with a discussion, but i felt the other poster was a bit heavy handed, nit picking and basically looking for an arguement. What you and I are having is an exchange of opinions, and that is something different. No one is trying to twist what is said like 2 Republicans trying to win a nomination, no one is trying to belittle the other person by pointing out typos or grammar mistakes (i'm not saying the other person did that, just making a point) or anything of that nature. Again, we are not talking about the same thing. Let me sum it up with an example. 2 coins go up on ebay, they are both 1893 CC Morgan Dollars. One is in a reputable grading company slab and is graded VF. The other is in a cardboard coin holder with VF written on it. The book price for a VF is $713 while the next grade down is $380, so there is a $333 difference between 1 grade. At the end of the auction, do you think A) They will sell for the same price, give or take a buck or 2 B) The professionally graded coin will sell for more. C) The cardboard holdered coin will sell for more. The question isn't what would a serious coin collector pay, or what a rookie would pay. Its what will the auction end at. Unless i misunderstood you, you said a rookie/uneducated buyer would pay more than its worth. In other words it sells for more, the only difference is it ends up in the collection of a uneducated/lazy collector. And another poster thanked someone for their view because they were able to make money buying coins raw, slabbing them and reselling them. Right there is someone with real life experience in what i am saying. But it is proof of value since its graded and can therefore the current value (which can change) can be looked up in an industry standard value book. An insurance company can argue with someone who self-graded their coins, or at least beat them down on a payout. Its hard for the insurance company to argue with the grade when you had it done by a third party company and have it documented - thats the point i am trying to make.[/QUOTE]
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