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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1363812, member: 13650"]I don't understand this statement at all. So if you want to push a nice MS coin into an album it's better to push it in with a bare finger than use a glove? And of course you will say, don't use albums. But people do and like to. I would not believe that using a glove to gently push a metal object in something would ever impair the surface to the point of damaging it or affecting the grade. If it was done repeatedly, possibly. I do know you can leave a nice big fingerprint on them that will show up years down the road though because I have seen them.</p><p> </p><p> As for the OP and the grading debate, there certainly has been a lot of stuff graded that probably shouldn't have been graded. On the other hand, there's a lot of stuff that should be graded. As has been covered here extensively, there is a worsening problem with counterfeits. And it's only getting worse. The Chinese are copying even the common stuff now that I would bet would fool many experienced collectors. Simply because they would never expect a $10 coin to be a fake. The copys are good enough to fool people if mixed in a roll or a bag. Or if you're just not paying that good of attention.</p><p><br /></p><p> Next, you have to give the graders some credit. They may be younger. (Or they may not be. People are just throwing around guesses here.) Who are you going to go with for grade on an important coin? The graders (since at least two and sometimes 3 graders review for slabbing) who gets paid to grade coins all day, every day, year after year? Or an experienced collector who may be asked to seriously grade a coin once a month based on their own opinion? (If that.) Which probably won't agree with the next "experienced" collector's opinion. Who certainly won't agree with the dealer selling the coin, who of course, has been doing it for 30 years. </p><p><br /></p><p> To me the TPG's cut out A LOT of BS. My opinion. I'm sure many others think they add to it. But it's the nature of this hobby. I don't know how you can escape it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1363812, member: 13650"]I don't understand this statement at all. So if you want to push a nice MS coin into an album it's better to push it in with a bare finger than use a glove? And of course you will say, don't use albums. But people do and like to. I would not believe that using a glove to gently push a metal object in something would ever impair the surface to the point of damaging it or affecting the grade. If it was done repeatedly, possibly. I do know you can leave a nice big fingerprint on them that will show up years down the road though because I have seen them. As for the OP and the grading debate, there certainly has been a lot of stuff graded that probably shouldn't have been graded. On the other hand, there's a lot of stuff that should be graded. As has been covered here extensively, there is a worsening problem with counterfeits. And it's only getting worse. The Chinese are copying even the common stuff now that I would bet would fool many experienced collectors. Simply because they would never expect a $10 coin to be a fake. The copys are good enough to fool people if mixed in a roll or a bag. Or if you're just not paying that good of attention. Next, you have to give the graders some credit. They may be younger. (Or they may not be. People are just throwing around guesses here.) Who are you going to go with for grade on an important coin? The graders (since at least two and sometimes 3 graders review for slabbing) who gets paid to grade coins all day, every day, year after year? Or an experienced collector who may be asked to seriously grade a coin once a month based on their own opinion? (If that.) Which probably won't agree with the next "experienced" collector's opinion. Who certainly won't agree with the dealer selling the coin, who of course, has been doing it for 30 years. To me the TPG's cut out A LOT of BS. My opinion. I'm sure many others think they add to it. But it's the nature of this hobby. I don't know how you can escape it.[/QUOTE]
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