Featured The Slabbed (NGC/PCGS) AT-QT (Artificial/Questionable Toning) Thread

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I decided to call it now as it’s fairly obvious which direction most are going.
    Others can still comment on the Kennedy if they want.

    I’d be hesitant to use that logic. People do silly things all the time. And yes I’ve seen $5 and lower coins being artificially toned (the original seller might be able to make a few dollars or be more easily able to dump otherwise common coins that don’t sell).
     
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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Sorry for jumping the gun on the JFK. I will comment last on the cent—there is a backstory connected to it.
     
  4. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

  5. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    As for the Kennedy I'll go with AT/QC
     
  6. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Kennedy qc zincoln I think natural
     
  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Coin 1 - Clad Dime (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 2 - Franklin (pg. 1) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 3 - CBH (pg. 4) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 4 - Silv PR Ike (pg. 5) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 5 - Peace Dollar (pg. 7) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 6 - Ohio Silv PR 25c (pg. 8) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 11 (AT/QC)
    Coin 7 - 1964 MS 25c (pg. 9) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 8 - 1974 Clad PR 25c (pg. 11) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 9 - 85-O Morgan (pg. 12) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC) *no points*
    Coin 10 - 1890 IHC (pg. 13) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
    Coin 11 - 1893 Col. Commem (pg. 14) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 12 - Silver 3c (pg. 15) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 13 - SBA (pg. 16) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 14 - Large Cent (pg. 16) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 15 - Franklin (pg. 17) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 14 (AT/QC)
    Coin 16 - 1964 10c (pg. 18) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 10 (AT/QC)
    Coin 17 - 1966 1c SMS 67*(pg. 19) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 18 - Silve 25c (pg. 19) - 10(NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 19 - Peace Dollar (pg. 20) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 10 (AT/QC)
    Coin 20 - 1945 1c (pg. 21) - 14 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 21 - 1964 50c (pg. 22) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 22 - Peace $1 (pg. 23) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
    Coin 23 - Franklin (pg. 24) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 24 - Jefferson 5c (pg. 24) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 25 - Peace $1 (pg. 25) - 8 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 26 - 1947 10c (pg. 26) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 27 - 1940 Walker (pg. 27) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 28 - 1970-S Cent (pg. 28) - 11 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 29 - Roanoke Commem (pg. 29) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 30 - Peace Dollar (pg. 30) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 31 - Peace Dollar (pg. 30) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 32 - Long Island Commem (pg. 31) - 8 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 33 - New Rochelle Commem (pg. 32) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 34 - 1964 Kennedy (pg. 32) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 35 - Proof Franklin (pg. 32) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 36 - Wheat Cent (pg. 34) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 37 - Wheat Cent (pg. 35) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 38 - Franklin (pg. 36) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 12 (AT/QC)
    Coin 39 - Franklin (pg. 37) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 40 - Mercury (pg. 38) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 41 - Silver Washington 25c (pg. 39) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 42 - Clad Ike (pg. 39) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 43 - Silver Kennedy (pg. 39) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 5 (AT/QC)
    Coin 44 - MPL Cent (pg. 40) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 45 - Peace Dollar (pg. 42) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 46 - 1996 Nickel (pg. 43) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 8 (AT/QC)
    Coin 47 - 1928 Peace Dollar (pg. 44) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 48 - 1955 Lincoln Cent (pg. 46) - 9 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 49 - 1963 Nickel (pg. 47) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 50 - 1955 Cent (pg. 47) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 51 - Walker (pg. 48) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 52 - Peace Dollar (pg. 48) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 53 - 2004 Lincoln 1c (pg. 49) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 9 (AT/QC)
    Coin 54 - Capped Bust Half (pg. 50) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 55 - Indian Head 1c (pg. 51) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 4 (AT/QC)
    Coin 56 - 1956 Franklin (pg. 53) - 10 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 57 - 1877-CC 25c (pg. 53) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 58 - 1953 25c (pg. 55) - 9 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 59 - 1955 10c (pg. 55) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 60 - 1962 PR 1c (pg. 56) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 61 - 1955 50c (pg. 57) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 62 - 1837 50c (pg. 58) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 63 - 1979 1c (pg. 60) - 1 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
    Coin 64 - 1923 $1 (pg. 61) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 65 - 1962-D 50c (pg. 61) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 3 (AT/QC)
    Coin 66 - 1877 25c (pg. 62) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 67 - 1938 50c (pg. 62) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
    Coin 68 - 1960-D 1c (pg. 64) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)
    Coin 69 - 1943 1c (pg. 64) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 70 - 1962-D 50c (pg. 65) - 7 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 71 - 1931-S 1c (pg. 67) - 4 (NT/MA) vs 2 (AT/QC)
    Coin 72 - 1950-D 5c (pg. 67) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 73 - 1948-D 5c (pg. 67) - 6 (NT/MA) vs 0 (AT/QC)
    Coin 74 - 1974 50c (pg. 69) - 0 (NT/MA) vs 8 (AT/QC)
    Coin 75 - 2007-S 1c (pg. 69) - 5 (NT/MA) vs 1 (AT/QC)
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    NT/MA: 48 total
    AT/QC: 27 total

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    Points:

    ddddd - 18
    BlackberryPie - 3
    Lehigh96 - 2
    TheFinn - 1
    EyeAppealingCoins - 1
    Mainebill - 1
    Morgandude11- 1
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @Morgandude11 we'd love to hear the story. Sounds like it might be interesting considering most felt it was MA.
     
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  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I think it is MA, but it was offered to me as a freebie, for an overpayment on the shipping for the 8 British Commonwealth coins I bought from Mother_Natures_showroom. Those coins turned out to be NT, but I declined the cent, and took a cash refund. The exact same coin was offered for sale for $199/ OBO by Edynamic marketing.
     
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  10. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Is the floor open? I have a group of 2009-S proof Lincoln's that a couple of members wanted me to post in this thread.

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  11. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Nice coins. MA is my vote. MA for must acquire :woot:
     
  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    MA, but knowing the source, one never knows. #EdDynamic (or mother_natures_showroom, which is the same seller).
     
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  13. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    MA but not really sure if AT or QC. This is one that I wouldnt have confidence to buy but i'd understand if someone did.
     
  14. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Definitely not #EdDynamic. I have him blocked for any of my eBay searches. These came from the eBay seller "mother_natures_showroom".
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    They are the exact same seller. Just got coins (NT) from mother_natures_showroom, and the address and name of the person shipping is identical to Edynamic. It is the auction subsidiary, or just another account for the same business. Compared packages with a friend.
     
  16. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    very good to know
     
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  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’d call them ma but I question them. I think they were likely intentionally stored to tone naturally over a bit of time. Like the paper envelope trick. So I think they’ve had a little help but weren’t totally bogus. Why I say ma
     
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  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I would agree. Same goes for a couple of my British Commonwealth coins from the same seller. May have had some help, being stored in their mint boxes in very humid climates, but are MA, and in most cases, NT, by virtue of storage.
     
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  19. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Didn't know that. Another way to get around the blocked seller.
     
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  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    From my PayPal account, regarding overpayment, from Mother_Natures_Showroom (copied, and pasted from PayPal statement):


    Total purchase amount $65.50 USD
    Amount refunded $42.00 USD
    Refund paid by
    Dynamic Coins & Currencies
     
  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Now knowing the source I question them a little.
    But I still say MA/NT. Most of these sets I have come across have some kind of toning.
     
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