Featured The Slabbed (NGC/PCGS) AT-QT (Artificial/Questionable Toning) Thread

The first set of photos seem to indicate questionable neon pink and electric blue highlights on the periphery. The other set of photos make the coin appear much more market acceptable. This looks like a case where the seller may be using photo enhancements (color saturation) to hawk his wares. Proof Ikes are stored in a number of different holders, some of which can cause dramatic toning. The majority of the toning is an orange gold that blankets both sides and a color I have seen before on modern proofs. It is also worth mentioning that this coin is a silver IKE, not a clad IKE, and much more susceptible to toning.

I'm going NT/MA on this one.

 

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Tag more people as you post please!

 

A quick question for @Lehigh96 with regards to the 24 hour rule. Does that simply mean that after 24 hours we count up the numbers of AT/NT for that given coin and list them, or does it mean that PLUS no other coin may be posted UNTIL the coin that has kicked off the 24 hour time frame has run it's 24 hours? Thank you.

My gut feeling about the CBH is NT.

 

Yeah, I think it would be best if we cleared the current coin before we move on the next one. But now both ddddd & I have the ability to call it a wrap, I think it should move a little smoother. After all, we are only on our third coin.

 

QT but the photo's don't let me get a good idea.

 

So PCGS was initially wrong?

I showed this coin to several people, including dealers and experts, and the only one who agreed with PCGS was an arrogant slab-addicted dealer.

 

As for the Ike, it appears to have been cracked out and put into an album. The spot over IGWT was probably a contaminant consistent with being cracked out of OGP. I’ll say MA toning

 

My opinion was that both grading events were incorrect. I would have been advocating for details cleaned or altered surfaces.

 

The solid orange color on both sides of this Ike look accelerated to me.
I think it was heat toned as already said. The pink and blues also fit the bill IMO
QC/AT

@heavycam.monstervam

 

Going to say AT/QT on this one.

@Paddy54
@longshot

 

I could go either way on this one. I'll go heat treated but might not have been intentional. Possibly sitting in a garage in Florida.
AT/QT

 

I just finished getting all caught up with this thread. Very interesting so far. I'm not very good at guessing what is AT or NT or MA, I only know what I like. For the most part, I will be throwing darts here.

As for the Ike that was posted, I would guess AT/QT as well.

 

I agree with this +1

 

Serious question. What is un-intentional heat treating?

So a coin sitting in a garage in Florida (for whatever reason), cannot ever achieve natural toning?

 

I think you may have mis-understood what i was saying.
Im saying this coin looks like the victim of heat, but it could have POSSIBLY been un-intenional. A coin sitting in a garage in FL most certainly COULD be natural toning.
My guess, is just that, a guess. I have no idea how this actually happened. Hope this helps

 

Storing your coins in a hot humid garage/attic is improper storage and will often yield questionable toning relegating your coins to problem coins.

If your have coins have value, then treat them like valuables and protect them from environmental conditions, and stop treating them the same way you treat your high school yearbook.

 

LeHigh, if you don’t stop your savagery, you’re gonna owe me a new phone. That’s the second time this week I spit coffee on my phone from laughing at your comments.

 

Clear as mud. thanks for trying.

 

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