Featured The Slabbed (NGC/PCGS) AT-QT (Artificial/Questionable Toning) Thread

Since the idea was to generate points for posting an AT coin, I thought it would be inferred that the poster felt the coin was AT. We should only include their opinion in the event of a tie.

I’m case of a tie, we should count the OPs AT opinion and give him the point.

 

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By definition, MA precludes the coin from being AT/QT. It has to be either one or the other.

 

Since you wrote this:

I'm inferring that @CoinCorgi 's guess goes towards the NT side.

 

Ok that sounds like a good plan. Thanks for the clarification!

 

I really don’t know what his opinion on your coin is.

 

So that answers Doug's question about defining what AT is...namely "not market acceptable toning". That's a circular definition if I have ever seen one!

 

I looked at his posts again and I'm not sure either.
I'm fine with counting his vote for NT.
Please clarify @CoinCorgi

 

I haven't given an opinion. The relationship between reality and the definition of the terms is not clear.

 

The count is 7-3 for AT without his opinion, I think it is safe to call it at this point.

 

Summary of results:
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Coin 1 - Clad Dime (pg.1) - 2 (NT/MA) vs 6 (AT/QC)
Coin 2 - Franklin (pg. 1) - 3 (NT/MA) vs 7 (AT/QC)

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NT/MA: 0 total
AT/QC: 2 total

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Points:
Lehigh96 - 1
ddddd - 1

 

I'd like to see someone else post before I offer more examples....who has something that will cause more even guesses?

 

I think I should stress, you don’t have to be the owner of the coin. If you see a coin on E-Bay, Heritage, GC etc that you think is AT, just post the photos in this thread and divulge that you don’t own the coin.

 

With the Franklin that I posted, I don't own it.
It sold for $3,850 in Feb 2017 on GC.

 

I’m a couple of days late. I vote NT on the dime.

This was from a 1966 SMS set that was gathering dust at my LCS. Since they had no prospect of selling their piles of sets, they broke them down - basically to use in the cash register. So I know this spent 52 years in the mint cellophane. Then they just gave it to me.

Sure, it’s more red than green, but there is certainly green here. But it has an uninterrupted provenance right back to the mint.

 

I knew that but I’m not sure if the other followers of this thread knew it.

 

I'll make sure that I clarify going forward in the original post if I own it or not.

 

@RonSanderson that would have been a good example to use if it was slabbed.
I will say that the SMS coins are another entity; they differ from both the circulated clads that followed and the silver that preceded them.

Also note that the 1966 and 1967 SMS sets were issued from the mint in hard plastic packaging; the 1965 SMS sets came in the cellophane similar to mint sets.

 

My position on SMS sets is basically that anything is possible. I once owned an SMS Lincoln that was mind blowing!

In fact, if nobody posts a coin by moring I’m going to post it as the next entry into this thread.

 

That is what I meant by them being "another entity"
They are basically their own subset of coinage and I agree that anything is possible with them. That is also why I wouldn't extrapolate any results from the SMS years (1965-1967) to apply to future or past years.

 

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