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<p>[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26664214, member: 86815"]I was moving a little off track with the last couple of posts so here is a coin I picked up on my recent trip to Florida.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1701246[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1701247[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't do better than this write up by [USER=4910]@willieboyd2[/USER] and I urge you to visit it.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-guy-named-joe.370460/#post-5143203" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-guy-named-joe.370460/#post-5143203">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-guy-named-joe.370460/#post-5143203</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The story can be amplified by this book that I picked up a couple of years before the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1701248[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Clive's reputation did not survive in fact During the 1770s, Thomas Paine used Clive as a symbol of British tyranny and corruption. For the American colonists, the East India Company’s actions in India served as a "cautionary tale" of what happens when a distant government allows corporate interests to rule without restraint. William Dalrymple reframed Clive as an "unstable sociopath" who managed a dangerously unregulated private company. The focus has shifted from his military "genius" at the Battle of Plassey (1757) to the fact that the victory was largely secured through bribery and political treachery.</p><p>About 20 years ago I read a biography on Clive by Robert Harvey titled "Clive- The Life and Death of a British Emperor".</p><p>Having been taught at School that Clive saved the British Indian Empire from the French and was a hero albeit somewhat flawed, the biography was an eye opener for me as Harvey painted the picture of corrupt, hypocritical, greedy, ruthless sociopath.</p><p>So why did I want this coin? Simple, a pedigree to a (in)famous owner, a controversial salvage challenged through the International Courts, and I find it an attractive coin and it fits in with my New World colonial shipwreck collection.</p><p>I did a trade on 30 Morgan dollars that I had acquired over the years at probably todays melt value. I was pleased with the deal as this coin holds more interest to me than a pocket full of Morgan Dollars.</p><p>Here is an image of the previous owner!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1701254[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26664214, member: 86815"]I was moving a little off track with the last couple of posts so here is a coin I picked up on my recent trip to Florida. [ATTACH=full]1701246[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1701247[/ATTACH] I can't do better than this write up by [USER=4910]@willieboyd2[/USER] and I urge you to visit it. [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-guy-named-joe.370460/#post-5143203[/URL] The story can be amplified by this book that I picked up a couple of years before the coin. [ATTACH=full]1701248[/ATTACH] Clive's reputation did not survive in fact During the 1770s, Thomas Paine used Clive as a symbol of British tyranny and corruption. For the American colonists, the East India Company’s actions in India served as a "cautionary tale" of what happens when a distant government allows corporate interests to rule without restraint. William Dalrymple reframed Clive as an "unstable sociopath" who managed a dangerously unregulated private company. The focus has shifted from his military "genius" at the Battle of Plassey (1757) to the fact that the victory was largely secured through bribery and political treachery. About 20 years ago I read a biography on Clive by Robert Harvey titled "Clive- The Life and Death of a British Emperor". Having been taught at School that Clive saved the British Indian Empire from the French and was a hero albeit somewhat flawed, the biography was an eye opener for me as Harvey painted the picture of corrupt, hypocritical, greedy, ruthless sociopath. So why did I want this coin? Simple, a pedigree to a (in)famous owner, a controversial salvage challenged through the International Courts, and I find it an attractive coin and it fits in with my New World colonial shipwreck collection. I did a trade on 30 Morgan dollars that I had acquired over the years at probably todays melt value. I was pleased with the deal as this coin holds more interest to me than a pocket full of Morgan Dollars. Here is an image of the previous owner! [ATTACH=full]1701254[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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