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<p>[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26656050, member: 86815"]I believe you hit the nail on the head [USER=110226]@robinjojo[/USER] , salinity and of course in some areas such as Europe, strong tides.</p><p>These two coins came from the Sao Jose which was salvaged in the Mozambique Straits with strong currents.</p><p>If you look at a São José coin, it often looks "smooth" or has soft, rounded details compared to a "Grade 1" <i>Atocha</i> coin. I believe there are two main reasons for this:</p><p><br /></p><p>The São José sank in relatively shallow water on a coral reef in an area with extremely high surge and currents.</p><p>For nearly 400 years, the coins were tossed around in a slurry of abrasive sand and coral fragments. I call this the "Maytag" effect.</p><p>I picked this set up inexpensively on Ebay and was very pleased as these are,in my opinion, the definitive East Indies Spice Trade coins. Most I've seen are a bright matt white and are overshadowed by Atocha coins so can still be picked up reasonably.</p><p>I think the comment "prestigious Shipwreck effect" is somewhat overstated.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1700628[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>[ATTACH=full]1700632[/ATTACH]</b></i></p><p><i><b><br /></b></i></p><p><i><b>These are the original sale details.</b></i></p><p><i><b>KINGDOM_EMPIRE </b></i> MEXICO UNDER SPAIN</p><p><i><b>TITLE </b></i> SAN JOSE SHIPWRECK COIN SET</p><p><i><b>DENOMINATION </b></i> REALES</p><p><i><b>UNIT </b></i> 8 & 4 REALES</p><p><i><b>DATE </b></i> 1618-1622</p><p><i><b>MATERIAL </b></i> SILVER</p><p><i><b>RULER </b></i> PHILIP III / IV</p><p><i><b>REGION </b></i> MEXICO</p><p><i><b>MINT </b></i> MEXICO</p><p><i><b>CATALOG </b></i></p><p><i><b>CONDITION </b></i> Grade 2</p><p><i><b>CERTIFIEDBY </b></i> NGC</p><p><i><b>OBVERSE </b></i> Mexico 8 Reales (1618-1622) # Grade 2 Shipwreck Effect</p><p>Mexico 4 Reales (1618-1622) # Grade 2 Shipwreck Effect</p><p>Elegant hardwood presentation case with inlaid detailing, protective lock, and key.</p><p>Certificate of Authenticity signed by the CEO and Co-founder of Arqueonautas Worldwide, confirming the origin and authenticity of these historical artifacts.</p><p>Historical Significance:</p><p>Bound for Goa, the Sao José ship was part of a fleet dispatched from Lisbon in 1622, transporting royal treasure for the Portuguese Empire. After fierce battles and enduring Dutch and British attacks, the Sao José tragically sank off Mozambique's coast. Rediscovered nearly 400 years later in 2005, these coins serve as tangible relics from a pivotal period in maritime history.</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC Certified: Professionally authenticated and graded by Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC), these coins bear the prestigious "Shipwreck Effect" certification, ensuring their provenance and increasing collectible value.</p><p><br /></p><p>Condition:</p><p>Coins: Preserved and encapsulated, bearing typical #shipwreck effect# patina reflecting centuries underwater.</p><p>Presentation Box: Overall excellent condition, with very minor signs of storage wear (visible in photos).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26656050, member: 86815"]I believe you hit the nail on the head [USER=110226]@robinjojo[/USER] , salinity and of course in some areas such as Europe, strong tides. These two coins came from the Sao Jose which was salvaged in the Mozambique Straits with strong currents. If you look at a São José coin, it often looks "smooth" or has soft, rounded details compared to a "Grade 1" [I]Atocha[/I] coin. I believe there are two main reasons for this: The São José sank in relatively shallow water on a coral reef in an area with extremely high surge and currents. For nearly 400 years, the coins were tossed around in a slurry of abrasive sand and coral fragments. I call this the "Maytag" effect. I picked this set up inexpensively on Ebay and was very pleased as these are,in my opinion, the definitive East Indies Spice Trade coins. Most I've seen are a bright matt white and are overshadowed by Atocha coins so can still be picked up reasonably. I think the comment "prestigious Shipwreck effect" is somewhat overstated. [ATTACH=full]1700628[/ATTACH] [I][B][ATTACH=full]1700632[/ATTACH] These are the original sale details. KINGDOM_EMPIRE [/B][/I] MEXICO UNDER SPAIN [I][B]TITLE [/B][/I] SAN JOSE SHIPWRECK COIN SET [I][B]DENOMINATION [/B][/I] REALES [I][B]UNIT [/B][/I] 8 & 4 REALES [I][B]DATE [/B][/I] 1618-1622 [I][B]MATERIAL [/B][/I] SILVER [I][B]RULER [/B][/I] PHILIP III / IV [I][B]REGION [/B][/I] MEXICO [I][B]MINT [/B][/I] MEXICO [I][B]CATALOG CONDITION [/B][/I] Grade 2 [I][B]CERTIFIEDBY [/B][/I] NGC [I][B]OBVERSE [/B][/I] Mexico 8 Reales (1618-1622) # Grade 2 Shipwreck Effect Mexico 4 Reales (1618-1622) # Grade 2 Shipwreck Effect Elegant hardwood presentation case with inlaid detailing, protective lock, and key. Certificate of Authenticity signed by the CEO and Co-founder of Arqueonautas Worldwide, confirming the origin and authenticity of these historical artifacts. Historical Significance: Bound for Goa, the Sao José ship was part of a fleet dispatched from Lisbon in 1622, transporting royal treasure for the Portuguese Empire. After fierce battles and enduring Dutch and British attacks, the Sao José tragically sank off Mozambique's coast. Rediscovered nearly 400 years later in 2005, these coins serve as tangible relics from a pivotal period in maritime history. NGC Certified: Professionally authenticated and graded by Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC), these coins bear the prestigious "Shipwreck Effect" certification, ensuring their provenance and increasing collectible value. Condition: Coins: Preserved and encapsulated, bearing typical #shipwreck effect# patina reflecting centuries underwater. Presentation Box: Overall excellent condition, with very minor signs of storage wear (visible in photos).[/QUOTE]
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