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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 4366395, member: 73489"]Randy, it's been discussed in other threads that many times with certain coins (Saints, MSDs) the AU58's look "better" than the low-60's MS. I guess this also involves technical vs. market grading....but if a coin has minimal wear (and I wonder if it is actual circulation wear or just heavy bag/handling wear) it can look much better than an UNC MS coin that takes a beating being moved around across the Atlantic Ocean in those $5,000 DE bags.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">I see the same thing with currency: </span></b>alot of the PMG58 bills look much better than some PMG 64's and below, mostly because of badly-centered margins. The 58 paper does have flaws -- might even have creases/folds -- but if they are TOUGH TO SEE the graders knock it down but you the owner can't see it (I know many times I can't <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />).</p><p><br /></p><p>I posted a PMG40 Gold Certificate months ago and while it's tough to judge bills from pictures on the internet (probably tougher than coins), I had some veterans looking at it saying it graded high-50's and even up to PMG65. That's how good-looking the bill was and without being able to see it in-hand and then see the flaws (assuming they would be able to), it was the reason I bought it in the first place as opposed to a bill 20 point higher that you can see clearly has terrible margins (usually the #1 problem on bills).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 4366395, member: 73489"]Randy, it's been discussed in other threads that many times with certain coins (Saints, MSDs) the AU58's look "better" than the low-60's MS. I guess this also involves technical vs. market grading....but if a coin has minimal wear (and I wonder if it is actual circulation wear or just heavy bag/handling wear) it can look much better than an UNC MS coin that takes a beating being moved around across the Atlantic Ocean in those $5,000 DE bags. [B][COLOR=#0000ff]I see the same thing with currency: [/COLOR][/B]alot of the PMG58 bills look much better than some PMG 64's and below, mostly because of badly-centered margins. The 58 paper does have flaws -- might even have creases/folds -- but if they are TOUGH TO SEE the graders knock it down but you the owner can't see it (I know many times I can't :D). I posted a PMG40 Gold Certificate months ago and while it's tough to judge bills from pictures on the internet (probably tougher than coins), I had some veterans looking at it saying it graded high-50's and even up to PMG65. That's how good-looking the bill was and without being able to see it in-hand and then see the flaws (assuming they would be able to), it was the reason I bought it in the first place as opposed to a bill 20 point higher that you can see clearly has terrible margins (usually the #1 problem on bills).[/QUOTE]
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