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<p>[QUOTE="Ocatarinetabellatchitchix, post: 3560156, member: 99554"]Many people around me think coin collectors are weirdos. We spend hours admiring 2000 years old objects, some of us use needles and toothpicks to clean them, and in our spare times we enjoy making researches in references books that 99% of humans don’t understand. And I’m not talking about the dependance to spend big money for expanding our collection.....</p><p>We are not traveling, not playing sports , not having a social life and we dress like in the 60s !</p><p>So let’s make an exception tonight. Let’s discuss about <b>style, design, fashion and mode. </b>Let’s talk about <b>PALUDAMENTUM.</b></p><p><i>Definition</i>: a military cloak or cape worn by commanders, principal officers and personal attendants in the roman army. It was different from the <i>sagum</i> of the common soldier and the <i>toga</i> or garb of peace. Also sleeveless, open in front, reached down to the knees, and hung loosely over the shoulders, being fastened at the neck, in front or ( more typically ) on one side, with a clasp or a <i>fibula</i>. The <b>Paludamentum </b>was generally crimson, scarlet or purple in colour.. It was exclusively worn by emperors after the reign of Augustus. When an emperor was setting out for war, he went first to Rome and was there invested with the imperial mantle. And what about the greek <i>chlamys </i>? Tacitus tells us how the splendid naumachia exhibited by Claudius was viewed by Agrippina dressed <i>chlamyde aurata</i>, while Pliny and Dion Cassius in narrating the same story both used the expression <i>paludamento aurotextili </i>. So we can conclude they are exactly the same. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here we can see a few examples :</p><p><br /></p><p>Antoninus Pius</p><p>[ATTACH=full]946471[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Julius Caesar</p><p>[ATTACH=full]946472[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Marcus Aurelius</p><p>[ATTACH=full]946474[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Vespasian</p><p>[ATTACH=full]946476[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And on coins :</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Philip I</p><p>[ATTACH=full]946478[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Postumus reverse : Mars nude but Paludamentum on shoulders...</p><p>[ATTACH=full]946489[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The title of this thread is « the roman Paludamentum challenge ». I will need your help to achieve it. How many emperors or god wearing a Paludamentum can we find ? Thirty ? Fourty ? Or even more ? So please show us your coins ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ocatarinetabellatchitchix, post: 3560156, member: 99554"]Many people around me think coin collectors are weirdos. We spend hours admiring 2000 years old objects, some of us use needles and toothpicks to clean them, and in our spare times we enjoy making researches in references books that 99% of humans don’t understand. And I’m not talking about the dependance to spend big money for expanding our collection..... We are not traveling, not playing sports , not having a social life and we dress like in the 60s ! So let’s make an exception tonight. Let’s discuss about [B]style, design, fashion and mode. [/B]Let’s talk about [B]PALUDAMENTUM.[/B] [I]Definition[/I]: a military cloak or cape worn by commanders, principal officers and personal attendants in the roman army. It was different from the [I]sagum[/I] of the common soldier and the [I]toga[/I] or garb of peace. Also sleeveless, open in front, reached down to the knees, and hung loosely over the shoulders, being fastened at the neck, in front or ( more typically ) on one side, with a clasp or a [I]fibula[/I]. The [B]Paludamentum [/B]was generally crimson, scarlet or purple in colour.. It was exclusively worn by emperors after the reign of Augustus. When an emperor was setting out for war, he went first to Rome and was there invested with the imperial mantle. And what about the greek [I]chlamys [/I]? Tacitus tells us how the splendid naumachia exhibited by Claudius was viewed by Agrippina dressed [I]chlamyde aurata[/I], while Pliny and Dion Cassius in narrating the same story both used the expression [I]paludamento aurotextili [/I]. So we can conclude they are exactly the same. Here we can see a few examples : Antoninus Pius [ATTACH=full]946471[/ATTACH] Julius Caesar [ATTACH=full]946472[/ATTACH] Marcus Aurelius [ATTACH=full]946474[/ATTACH] Vespasian [ATTACH=full]946476[/ATTACH] And on coins : Philip I [ATTACH=full]946478[/ATTACH] Postumus reverse : Mars nude but Paludamentum on shoulders... [ATTACH=full]946489[/ATTACH] The title of this thread is « the roman Paludamentum challenge ». I will need your help to achieve it. How many emperors or god wearing a Paludamentum can we find ? Thirty ? Fourty ? Or even more ? So please show us your coins ![/QUOTE]
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