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<p>[QUOTE="Stephan77, post: 2169625, member: 74244"]The Chinese can employ thousands if not millions, to sit around all day, work the computer, and through the CADD manufacturing process, counterfeit coins and slabs. A dedicated website page for each graded coin, I think would immediately place a stop to their counterfeiting success. My general idea is...a coin gets graded by say PCGS, that coin then immediately gets its own website page with ownership details. One day the owner decides to sell the coin, the owner presents the website page along with the coin, and proof that he is the owner. So say Stephan's Coins offers a graded coin, only I know the password to the coin's webpage, I sell the coin, along with the coin website page password, and then the owner can use that website page one day if he decides to sell the coin. Of course the new owner of the coin would change the password.</p><p><br /></p><p>So for the Chinese vermin to counterfeit this coin, they would need to hack in to each website page for each coin they want to counterfeit in a slab. At some point, even for the Chinese, it would get to the point, where this would be a waste of their time. Hacking is not easy, and in fact is extremely difficult in a case such as this, unless the owner is careless. CU could say maintain control over the server, so that say 3 hack attempts and the Chinese hacker gets blocked. But here's the basic problem for the hacker, the hacker wouldn't even know where to begin, each coin has a dedicated webpage and the hacker would at least need to first know that. And even knowing that, then they need to hack the password. CU if they control the server could arrange it so that the individual coin webpages could not be hacked automatically if the Chinese hack the CU website.</p><p><br /></p><p>Frankly, similar to other websites that get hacked, it's usually due to carelessness on the part of the individual or business, or there is a mole inside the company who provides the info. For example. naturally a coin shop employee may have access to all the coin's webpage passwords, so due vigilance must still take place from the coin's owner with everything involved. But at least, in my opinion, the problem of random counterfeiting by the Chinese would be virtually if not completely eliminated.</p><p><br /></p><p>I realize the Chinese would then somehow try to fake the website pages, but they couldn't trace the coin back to the original owner, and they would need to have an American presence because I don't think anyone in their right coin collecting mind is going to buy a coin from Wang's Coin Shop in China considering their history of counterfeiting. With an American presence for the counterfeiter, their counterfeiting sales could be quickly reported to law enforcement and they could be arrested and prosecuted. And there are ways that the potential buyer could double check to make sure the coin's URL is a legitimate one.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are other safeguards and safety checks as well, all could be done in seconds by a potential buyer, and if the buyer is too lazy to do it, or lacks the computer savvy to do it, well then he shouldn't complain if he winds up buying a counterfeit coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>That's my two cents, I'm not sure if it's two MS 70 proof cents or two PO 1 cents. LOL[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stephan77, post: 2169625, member: 74244"]The Chinese can employ thousands if not millions, to sit around all day, work the computer, and through the CADD manufacturing process, counterfeit coins and slabs. A dedicated website page for each graded coin, I think would immediately place a stop to their counterfeiting success. My general idea is...a coin gets graded by say PCGS, that coin then immediately gets its own website page with ownership details. One day the owner decides to sell the coin, the owner presents the website page along with the coin, and proof that he is the owner. So say Stephan's Coins offers a graded coin, only I know the password to the coin's webpage, I sell the coin, along with the coin website page password, and then the owner can use that website page one day if he decides to sell the coin. Of course the new owner of the coin would change the password. So for the Chinese vermin to counterfeit this coin, they would need to hack in to each website page for each coin they want to counterfeit in a slab. At some point, even for the Chinese, it would get to the point, where this would be a waste of their time. Hacking is not easy, and in fact is extremely difficult in a case such as this, unless the owner is careless. CU could say maintain control over the server, so that say 3 hack attempts and the Chinese hacker gets blocked. But here's the basic problem for the hacker, the hacker wouldn't even know where to begin, each coin has a dedicated webpage and the hacker would at least need to first know that. And even knowing that, then they need to hack the password. CU if they control the server could arrange it so that the individual coin webpages could not be hacked automatically if the Chinese hack the CU website. Frankly, similar to other websites that get hacked, it's usually due to carelessness on the part of the individual or business, or there is a mole inside the company who provides the info. For example. naturally a coin shop employee may have access to all the coin's webpage passwords, so due vigilance must still take place from the coin's owner with everything involved. But at least, in my opinion, the problem of random counterfeiting by the Chinese would be virtually if not completely eliminated. I realize the Chinese would then somehow try to fake the website pages, but they couldn't trace the coin back to the original owner, and they would need to have an American presence because I don't think anyone in their right coin collecting mind is going to buy a coin from Wang's Coin Shop in China considering their history of counterfeiting. With an American presence for the counterfeiter, their counterfeiting sales could be quickly reported to law enforcement and they could be arrested and prosecuted. And there are ways that the potential buyer could double check to make sure the coin's URL is a legitimate one. There are other safeguards and safety checks as well, all could be done in seconds by a potential buyer, and if the buyer is too lazy to do it, or lacks the computer savvy to do it, well then he shouldn't complain if he winds up buying a counterfeit coin. That's my two cents, I'm not sure if it's two MS 70 proof cents or two PO 1 cents. LOL[/QUOTE]
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