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<p>[QUOTE="J. J., post: 6461795, member: 118499"]I never said that I claim that the coin depicts the statue. I said that David Atherton’s description of the Giza Sphinx matches the Alexandrian Sphinx. So, if your opinion is based on the physical features of the sculpture, and we have at least 2 which look the same, which one do we choose?</p><p><br /></p><p>I said clearly what my opinion was: it might be just a symbol depicted on the coin, it might be the actual monument. But it’s not me who claims the definitive version (with <i>no doubts</i>) and providing no ultimate evidence. So yes, the burden of proof is not on my shoulders.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The way you described chronology of the Sphinx, makes it look like there was the Giza Sphinx erected, and every subsequent image of a sphinx was just a copy of that sculpture. No, sphinxes were images of the creature called sphinx, not the mini versions of the sculpture called the Giza Sphinx. Do you think that the Giza Sphinx created the myth about sphinx or is it the myth that inspired the pharaoh to erect the monument?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I could look for that info, but it wouldn't be a game-changer in our discussion because the sphinx coins show a beard sometimes, regardless (although most of the coins show the sphinx beardless). Anyways, I don't consider minor engraver's alterations as a strong evidence. If we wanted to prove anything taking that fact into consideration, then you would be ruling out the two Alexandrian sphinxes, and I would be saying that it is impossible that the same statute was depicted in two different versions - before and after shave ;-)</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It was actually not so special at all for the Roman standards (90 years time-span). The sphinx also appears in Lucius Verus' coinage, and on Alexandrian coins of Hadrian (the latter is the winged version of a sphinx, completely ignoring the greatness of our esteemed Great Sphinx). And also, what rarity has to do with the likelihood? For every rare issue depicting monuments, I can show you common and popular issue.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="J. J., post: 6461795, member: 118499"]I never said that I claim that the coin depicts the statue. I said that David Atherton’s description of the Giza Sphinx matches the Alexandrian Sphinx. So, if your opinion is based on the physical features of the sculpture, and we have at least 2 which look the same, which one do we choose? I said clearly what my opinion was: it might be just a symbol depicted on the coin, it might be the actual monument. But it’s not me who claims the definitive version (with [I]no doubts[/I]) and providing no ultimate evidence. So yes, the burden of proof is not on my shoulders. The way you described chronology of the Sphinx, makes it look like there was the Giza Sphinx erected, and every subsequent image of a sphinx was just a copy of that sculpture. No, sphinxes were images of the creature called sphinx, not the mini versions of the sculpture called the Giza Sphinx. Do you think that the Giza Sphinx created the myth about sphinx or is it the myth that inspired the pharaoh to erect the monument? I could look for that info, but it wouldn't be a game-changer in our discussion because the sphinx coins show a beard sometimes, regardless (although most of the coins show the sphinx beardless). Anyways, I don't consider minor engraver's alterations as a strong evidence. If we wanted to prove anything taking that fact into consideration, then you would be ruling out the two Alexandrian sphinxes, and I would be saying that it is impossible that the same statute was depicted in two different versions - before and after shave ;-) It was actually not so special at all for the Roman standards (90 years time-span). The sphinx also appears in Lucius Verus' coinage, and on Alexandrian coins of Hadrian (the latter is the winged version of a sphinx, completely ignoring the greatness of our esteemed Great Sphinx). And also, what rarity has to do with the likelihood? For every rare issue depicting monuments, I can show you common and popular issue.[/QUOTE]
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