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Message:: [QUOTE="rascal, post: 1319071, member: 29239"]Now we are talking , I thank you for the photo of the die. Hopefully this will help me to explain to you how a die can become buckled or warped. they can become buckled or warped in either direction UP or DOWN. this has to do with whatever caused the problem , excessive die heat and wear and tear also can cause this. notice in the photo how far the face of the die extends out from the die shaft. this is where the weakest part is and the damage occurs most often. if only one side of the die is pushed downward this creates a upwards wrinkle in one side of the die then it can clash up into the recessed areas of the other die and end up making coins like the one in this thread. if both sides of the die is pushed down this creates a upwards curvature across the die .if it then happens to clash with the other die then the memorial building on a cent coin is visible all the way across Lincolns neck. If you don't believe me just ask BJ Neff we both learned this together. I have two 2000 p cents from the same set of dies with the memorial building showing totally across the recessed area of Lincoln's neck. this plainly shows us to stop judging coins from just a photo,this is just like trying to judge a book by it's cover. I told you a while back that some coins can not be authenticated from photos . photos are not like the actual coin is unless it's a well known error coin and extremely easy to see.[/QUOTE]