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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GoldFinger1969, post: 4290330, member: 73489&quot;]Kurt, I&#039;m not sure you&#039;re still here @ CT but I wanted to state in this thread that I am attempting to get a transcript of the talk or a videotape of the talk.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #b30000"><b>FWIW, I STRONGLY disagree that this guy has arguments that are The Smoking Gun in the case of the 10 Langbord Double Eagles.</b></span>&nbsp; While I agree that neither side proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt (the conviction for murder threshold) the preponderance of the evidence standard clearly leans to the Langbords.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #0000ff">There&#039;s a reason why no well-respected numismatic expert thinks the coins belong to the Mint.</span></b>&nbsp; The Mint&#039;s chief witness during the trial was an author and part-time comic strip illustrator as I recall.&nbsp; The Mint LIED about returning the coins and this led them to avoid filing a forfeiture claim which would have placed the burden on them instead of the Langbords.&nbsp; Other government agencies even said the Mint should have filed a forfeiture claim.&nbsp; All Weinman proved is that when you are the federal government and run to the federal courts and stack the deck with sympathetic judges (judge shopping) and they tilt the trial against you (your witness speaks for hours at a time, theirs gets interrupted every few seconds)....you can win the case.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>Whoop-de-damn-doo, as a not-so-famous athelete once said&nbsp; ! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></i></b></p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>Frankly, I&#039;m surprised any coin group would even invite this guy to talk.</i></b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />He and the Mint are NOT friends of the numismatic community.&nbsp; Their thuggery, lies, deception, and sleazy tactics (irrespective of their case, which I do not think was even argued convincingly let alone proved) in the 1933 Double Eagle cases was disgraceful.&nbsp; The logic they employed in the 1933 DE case could just as easily be employed against holders of other coins, including those actively traded and graded for decades.</p><p><br /></p><p><u>That said, I&#039;m not like The Mint or the judges or the trial jury.&nbsp; I&#039;ll wait to see if this guy raises a point that somehow I missed in all the articles I read.&nbsp; If he does, if he can PROVE that the coins were &quot;stolen from the Mint&quot;, I&#039;ll admit it here.</u></p><p><br /></p><p>I wouldn&#039;t hold my breath, though.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie33" alt=":cigar:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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