The rarest gold coins you've seen in a long time-

Hmmm! Interesting

Very Interesting, as I don't believe that either the 1849 $20 gold pattern "PR64", or the 1877 gold pattern $50 "PR67" have been offered for sale. How does one determine their relative values?

I'm really not privy to all of the facts concerning these 2 proposed coin designs, but my understanding is that they aren't official coinage until approved for general release in the year indicated on the pattern. I would appreciate a correction if my understanding is faulted.

I understand that the "PCGS Million Dollar Coin Club" has placed a relative value on these pieces of metal, but if their values are similar to other PCGS published suggested values, well enough said.

I don't believe that "appraisal experts" generally have a reasonable objective basis for establishing the worldly value of patterns as these. I don't believe these "patterns" were ever released as monetary mediums of exchange. Until the "patterns" are offered in a worldly auction, logic would dictate that the $50 PR67 by proposed denominational value, (and perceived grade), is generally mandated to be of greater value than a 1849 $20 PR64.

If you hear that the "patterns" are to be sold, please inform me, as I have a possibly interesting proposed wager for those who've established current relative values.

In the mean time, I'll ignorantly maintain my understanding for value establishment until I can defer to those publishing additional facts of which I'm uninformed.

I believe this to be an enlightening thread, of which I appreciate the objective contributions. :bow:

 

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This thread has been edited quite a bit, and I find what's left rather curious.

Taking the opening post at face value, I would suggest the OP consult a few experts in rare gold to accurately assess market value -- and an in-hand assessment would be best, for instance at a large show. These very valuable coins are difficult to price in the first place, and the few folks I do know who can don't post here -- I suspect you might get a more broad response in the PCGS forums. I would focus first on an in-hand assessment by a few experts, however, as your photographs will likely diminish the ability of even an expert to assess value.

Good luck....Mike

 

Thanks, leadfoot. Wow! Mods really did do a cut and splice job all over the place, the first post was a duplicate post I thought they had deleted until I saw it pasted on here, sorry for any confusion with that.

The in-hand assessment is a great idea, I have also requested an auction appraisal from Heritage and should hear back from them in the next couple days, in addition I'll be contacting the top 10 rare coin dealers I can find next week, I'll keep yall posted.

 

I agree 110% on this, I certainly wouldn't sell this coin on just any venue or site. I would invest the extra money to have professional auction houses that deal in this type of rare pieces sell that for you. Heritage or Stacks Bowers would be my choice.