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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 752987, member: 112"]Have an impact, yes - make the market no. Large dealers, major players, whatever you want to call them, always have an impact. But there is no single dealer in any area of the market, regardless of their speciallty, that makes the market. Even Heritage which is the biggest of them all, only comprises about 8% of the market. </p><p><br /></p><p>And don't try to tell me that it's different with toned coins because it isn't. Heritage, Teletrade and many of the other auction houses have had repeated auctions where toned coins were the main attraction. Anaconda was a drop in the bucket compared to these guys.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I said earlier, Anaconda achieved their level of notoriety for one reason - coin forums. And if you haven't noticed that coin forums are one of the, if not the primary, methods for collectors to share their collections and claim their bragging rights, then you aren't as astute as I thought you were. Coin forums have a tremendous impact on our hobby. people who would never in their lives have pruchased a particular coin or one like it do so because they are exposed to those coins on coin forums. They see one and say WOW ! Next thing you know they have one too. I see it happen every day and have seen it happening since coin forums first appeared.</p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p>To a large degree, yes. But there are still those who know virtually nothing about toned coins or the toned coin market who do buy them. Of course they have more money than sense IMO. But more than few buy them just so they can say they have one. I would even say that most of the toned coin collectors started out that way. You name the guy from any of the forums, the best known names and so called experts, and I can probably rememeber when he first started buying toned coins and posting about them. I can remember when Anaconda was just another name that only a few had ever heard of.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will agree with you that today there are quite a few collectors who specialize in collecting toned coins. And many of them know far more than the average collector, about toned coins anyway. But it is also my opinion that many of these same people do not know as much as they think they do, or as others seems to think they know. And the deference they are shown on the coin forums and in person is not deserved IMO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Paul, just like I have told you both privately and publicly, I think you pay way too much for the coins in your collection. I think others like you do the same. I know you and they disagree. Well, that's what makes the world go round. And all of you have every right to believe what you want. Just don't ask me to believe it.</p><p><br /></p><p>And I will forever voice my point of view, on this and other subjects, if for no other reason than to make sure that others see it, hear it, read it - and hopefully consider it, carefully.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 752987, member: 112"]Have an impact, yes - make the market no. Large dealers, major players, whatever you want to call them, always have an impact. But there is no single dealer in any area of the market, regardless of their speciallty, that makes the market. Even Heritage which is the biggest of them all, only comprises about 8% of the market. And don't try to tell me that it's different with toned coins because it isn't. Heritage, Teletrade and many of the other auction houses have had repeated auctions where toned coins were the main attraction. Anaconda was a drop in the bucket compared to these guys. As I said earlier, Anaconda achieved their level of notoriety for one reason - coin forums. And if you haven't noticed that coin forums are one of the, if not the primary, methods for collectors to share their collections and claim their bragging rights, then you aren't as astute as I thought you were. Coin forums have a tremendous impact on our hobby. people who would never in their lives have pruchased a particular coin or one like it do so because they are exposed to those coins on coin forums. They see one and say WOW ! Next thing you know they have one too. I see it happen every day and have seen it happening since coin forums first appeared. To a large degree, yes. But there are still those who know virtually nothing about toned coins or the toned coin market who do buy them. Of course they have more money than sense IMO. But more than few buy them just so they can say they have one. I would even say that most of the toned coin collectors started out that way. You name the guy from any of the forums, the best known names and so called experts, and I can probably rememeber when he first started buying toned coins and posting about them. I can remember when Anaconda was just another name that only a few had ever heard of. I will agree with you that today there are quite a few collectors who specialize in collecting toned coins. And many of them know far more than the average collector, about toned coins anyway. But it is also my opinion that many of these same people do not know as much as they think they do, or as others seems to think they know. And the deference they are shown on the coin forums and in person is not deserved IMO. Paul, just like I have told you both privately and publicly, I think you pay way too much for the coins in your collection. I think others like you do the same. I know you and they disagree. Well, that's what makes the world go round. And all of you have every right to believe what you want. Just don't ask me to believe it. And I will forever voice my point of view, on this and other subjects, if for no other reason than to make sure that others see it, hear it, read it - and hopefully consider it, carefully.[/QUOTE]
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