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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Leadfoot, post: 752868, member: 2972&quot;]Two points.... First, you shouldn&#039;t judge Mark&#039;s coins by what you see on his website (or just about any dealer&#039;s website -- the best stuff gets sold).&nbsp;&nbsp; Second, I will wager his customers are far less frequently disappointed in the quality of the coin they receive versus what they were led to believe by his photos.&nbsp; Third, I think your definition of &quot;major player&quot; in the toned coin market is a bit internet-centric and, frankly, incorrect.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I am not making suppositions.&nbsp; I speak from direct conversations on these topics with dealers.&nbsp; Could they be lying, perhaps.&nbsp; Do I believe them, yes.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>From our interactions here and elsewhere, I know you are going into this with your eyes open.&nbsp; While I like the back-and-forth, it is not trying to convince you that makes me type what I type.&nbsp; I know we are going to agree to disagree -- and I&#039;m fine with that.&nbsp; I type what I do for the ones out there who don&#039;t have your level of experience.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not suggesting that we ignore them.&nbsp; To the contrary, their effect needs to be understood and factored into any view of the toned coin market.&nbsp; But similarly, the other mechanisms for toned coin trading need to be taken into account.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the typical purchaser of coins from these folks.&nbsp; I think there is a segment of the toner population who is very well educated and knows what they are doing.&nbsp; They pick the true monsters when they see them and don&#039;t discriminate on dealers.&nbsp; However, I do feel that there is a significant portion of the collecting population -- to include me at one point -- that spends more money than they probably should be, gets pulled in by the glamor photographs and finds out too late they&#039;ve been fleeced.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>My only hope is that our discussion here might open the eyes of others, so that they take the time to find out for themselves the realities of the coin game, and make informed decisions with their eyes open to some of the games that go on.</p><p><br /></p><p>Take care...Mike</p><p><br /></p><p>p.s. thanks for taking the time to respond and allowing me the same opportunity -- I always enjoy our discussions.&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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