The Ptolemy Connection

I wish I could elaborate on your question @Joseph Sarkissian , but I'm as mystified as you are and hope someone else might be able to clarify that for you.....and me

 

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Another Ptolemy I like to show is this Ptolemy II Tyre mint tet showing the year date corrected/overdate 34 over 33 (lambda delta over lambda gamma). This is the only one of these I have seen and I would really appreciate word if anyone knows of another coin from this die.


This coin was in the collection of Grant Edwards a friend from the Washington DC club who passed away about 30 years ago. He was the person that got me interested in technically odd coins. Most people will see a low grade silver coin here but it is very special to me - certainly more than an EF 'normal'.

 

Yes, I use both that and wildwinds as cross-reference. Maybe I should spend some more time and explore their website and articles. Wish we had the time of the world. Thanks.

 

Forgive my ignorance, what does AE stand for (AE11 etc)?. I see it in many coins entries.

 

AE = Bronze, 11 would be 11mm.
AR = Silver,
AV = Gold,
PB = Lead,
BI = Billon,
EL = Electrum (natural gold and silver alloy).
Metals used in most ancients.

 

There appears to be controversy about who issued this coin, with Matthew Kreuzer advancing the Cleo VII story in his book The Coinage System of Cleopatra VII, Marc Antony and Augustus in Cyprus. Other numismatists... not so much. On Forvm there are some interesting and highly redacted (moderator deletions) back-and-forths between the author and others.

Oliver Hoover wrote a "famously" scathing review of the book and its conclusions although I can't seem to find a working link to that right now.

It appears that most numismatists are attributing this to Arsinoe III? Ardatirion might be able to tell us more. I certainly don't know which, if either, is correct.

 

Thank you! Now I am curious, and need an expert. @Ardatirion , do you have any thoughts?

 

Hi i have got one , but i need help to ID please . Thanks pic on avatar

 

@matias Welcome to the forum.

You would be better off starting a new thread. Post nice sharp photos of both sides of the coins, also tell us the weight in grams and the size in mm. We can try to help you.

 

Ptolemy II, Tyre mint year 34 judging only from the reverse. When you ask for an ID, show both sides.

 

hi thanks i will do my best.

 

Wow, ancient overdates?? Awesome example Doug.

 

Now that is a pretty coin!

 

I have only one Ptolomeic coin. But it is one of my favorite ancient coins.
AV Oktadrachm circa 180BC 28mm/ 28.09 g.
Arsinoe II Philadelphos/ struck during reign of Ptolomey VI. Alexandria Mint.

 

Joseph => the abbreviation AE is derived from the Latin word "aes"

 

Thanks, and I thought I was the chemistry whiz. We learn something every day. Latin and Greek should be in every coin collector's curriculum. I got Greek but have to brush up on my Latin. Veni Vidi Vici.

 

ΕΥΧΑΡΙΣΤΩ Alegandron. Very useful info. Is AV also written as AU at all? (Aurum) Or in coin language it is always AV (the old Roman V for U?)

 

Both, however original Latin used V as U.

 

Hi guys. I noticed that some Ptolemy coins, namely Ptol III, include the well known dual combination of letters Chi- Rho. That is XP in Greek between the legs of the eagle on reverse. What could they refer to? Control or mint mark. And what is their interpretation. Is it by coincidence that the Constantine Dynasty adopted that symbol as a Christogram for Christ in their early reign ? I'm so curious.