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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Kasia, post: 1331924, member: 31533&quot;]I don&#039;t think coin doctor is part of the current language, but it has such a bad connotation, and you introduced this as a result of the &quot;<span style="color: #333333">Coin Doctoring Definition Committee&quot;; </span>I hate to see overly broad statements that put or can put good honest people in a bad situation in their chosen hobby based on one or a few instances where coins in their care have been stored in a manner that resulted in toning, even if those people never thought that that would definitely happen. This, of course, does leave the fact that some people either do or will find a way to modify some coins in this manner or other manners you are not yet describing.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Why put in language stating that this is what is considered a part of coin doctoring if you can&#039;t, for an individual coin or coins, substantiate whether the it was done by someone who knew that would happen, or someone who simply lived in an area and nature happened, or someone put coins somewhere and forgot about them? </p><p><br /></p><p>I think that rather than writing a broad, over-reaching definition of this, that covers every possibility that some person can conceivably use to change a coin, the language should be more in tune with the things that are recognised as being true doctoring, like whizzing, altering mint marks, absolutely &quot;fake&quot; toning, as opposed to colors that appear naturally, etc, and that the person doing so has to be shown to do it for a profit or to do it to enough coins to show that they had some intention of profiting or hurting the hobby. Also I think that for this to go through, the major TPG&#039;s have to get some definite words in on what exactly constitutes natural vs artificial toning, other than the method used to get that toning. In other words, if the TPG&#039;s are grading toned coins based on their &quot;market&quot; value, then the TPG&#039;s are profiting and proliferating the practice. I am not totally knowledgeable about the tonings, but I have a limited ability to tell AT from NT in many instances, but see many coins being shown as graded NT that to me look totally AT due to colors, layering, etc. And people in the coin hobby seem to really appreciates some of these, even the &quot;monsters&quot;.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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