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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6256831, member: 110504"]<i>"And your Antioch Bohemond IV pougeoise from the 1210s is also interesting, as it's of a distinctive thin and ragged style, something that makes me wonder if it shouldn't actually be earlier from the first part of the 1200s, contemporary with the "irregular types" of helmeted knight deniers of early first reign of Bohemond IV."</i></p><p><br /></p><p>... [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], Well, except that, in any historical context that involves this level of, may we say, structural instability, if you posit too close a correspondence between style and execution on one hand, and (earlier) chronology on the other, you're already going into the deep end of the pool. As your latest example demonstrates (along with that much of the French feudal series --cf. the term 'dégénérée,' and so forth), crudeness of style is a notoriously unreliable indication of a given issue's place in the operant series. ...Frequently enough, cruder examples are later, not earlier.</p><p>...As I have occasion to observe, looking out the window at the homeless people in my neighborhood, It's War, And There Are Casualties.</p><p>...No, I'm <i>going </i>somewhere with this. The same essential principle allows of easy extension to Crusader issues. --By way of contrast, it really takes a sufficiently stable context, like Roman (imperial and provincial), to give you the breathing room to begin to establish less ambiguous correspondences between style and execution, on one hand, and chronology on the other. ...The Franks in the Levant had 4-alarm fires going off for the duration of their regime. Stuff happened.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 6256831, member: 110504"][I]"And your Antioch Bohemond IV pougeoise from the 1210s is also interesting, as it's of a distinctive thin and ragged style, something that makes me wonder if it shouldn't actually be earlier from the first part of the 1200s, contemporary with the "irregular types" of helmeted knight deniers of early first reign of Bohemond IV."[/I] ... [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], Well, except that, in any historical context that involves this level of, may we say, structural instability, if you posit too close a correspondence between style and execution on one hand, and (earlier) chronology on the other, you're already going into the deep end of the pool. As your latest example demonstrates (along with that much of the French feudal series --cf. the term 'dégénérée,' and so forth), crudeness of style is a notoriously unreliable indication of a given issue's place in the operant series. ...Frequently enough, cruder examples are later, not earlier. ...As I have occasion to observe, looking out the window at the homeless people in my neighborhood, It's War, And There Are Casualties. ...No, I'm [I]going [/I]somewhere with this. The same essential principle allows of easy extension to Crusader issues. --By way of contrast, it really takes a sufficiently stable context, like Roman (imperial and provincial), to give you the breathing room to begin to establish less ambiguous correspondences between style and execution, on one hand, and chronology on the other. ...The Franks in the Levant had 4-alarm fires going off for the duration of their regime. Stuff happened.[/QUOTE]
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