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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Speedy, post: 401329, member: 705&quot;]Of course not--they don&#039;t go say.....rip me off. In most cases the coins I see when going to shows or dealers are NOT graded. They are in flips with the date/mint and a price listed on the flip. It is up to the BUYER to put a grade. Most collectors don&#039;t know how to grade correctly. In fact....most don&#039;t even bother with reading and studying coins.</p><p>Then we have dealers that DO mark the flip with a grade and OVER grade the coin. They mark what you would call a F a VF....the normal collector who can&#039;t grade comes in and sees it marked VF and buys it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>CORRECT!!!!! </p><p>The grading hasn&#039;t changed....it&#039;s just different from what you learned. Market Grading changes along with the market.&nbsp; For at least 10 years the grading stander has been that what you call a F, should be in fact a VF. </p><p>As I have said over and over again---it isn&#039;t PCGS or NGC&#039;s problem---the COLLECTORs have accepted this change.</p><p><br /></p><p>Brown &amp; Dunn&#039;s guide is one that I think you listed in a post in this thread...I have a copy of their guide and I must say that it is VERY outdated. Photograde has strong points, but every guide has its good and bad points.</p><p>What I suggest to any collector is to read anything on grading they can....the PCGS guide, Photograde, ANA Guide, Brown and Dunn, etc. Then STUDY, STUDY, and do more study on grading, and look at as many coins as you can in person. Only then will anyone really be able to grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m still very green when it comes to grading. I&#039;ve been reading and studying coins so long I can&#039;t remember when I started (I think about 8 years ago)...I only know one thing...and that is there is SO much more to learn.</p><p><br /></p><p>I along with MANY, MANY others here on this forum would WELCOME a set of Grading Standers that all grading Co&#039;s. and collectors would follow. If we all worked from the same book it would make things much easier. The truth is, this isn&#039;t going to happen until alot more get behind it, and push for it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Speedy[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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