The perpetual search for a great portrait of Valerian

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  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    As per the title I am always on the lookout for great portraits of Valerian.. when I say great - I sorta mean "good" - as they are usually terrible. It was a dark, dark time.

    I posted this thread in 2019.. its still one of my favorites:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/valerian-an-epic-story-mostly-lost-to-history.333286/

    and I have really made no progress since. I just have two poor coins of the fellow but even when I look at very expensive coins (that I could never afford) I am rarely impressed with the portraiture ....


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    Perhaps some members here have been more successful? I would love to live through your coin acquisitions.. please share any portrait coins of Valerian!!
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Maybe the guy was just plain ugly.

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    Valerian I, AD 253-260.
    Roman AR antoninianus, 2.75 g, 20 mm, 7 h.
    Uncertain Eastern mint, 2nd emission, AD 256-260.
    Obv: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS·P·F·AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from the front.
    Rev: PIETAS AVGG, Valerian, holding eagle-tipped scepter, and Gallienus, holding parazonium, standing facing each other, sacrificing over lighted altar between them.
    Refs: RIC 285; Göbl 1684e; Cohen/RSC 152; RCV 9955; Hunter 73.
    Notes: The ANS attributes this issue to Cyzicus, Göbl to Samosata, and RIC to Antioch. According to the introduction of RIC volume V, during Valerian's reign, some coins minted in Asia cannot certainly be attributed to either Antioch or Cyzicus (p.22-26). RIC dates this issue to AD 255-56.
     
  4. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member


    Well that is an excellent coin! Wow... - and great portrait (relatively speaking).. he may have just been an unphotogenic, old grump .. sorta like me!
     
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  5. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I think this portrait is quite attractive. Really neat reverse as well.

    Valerian I RIC Antioch 277.JPG
     
  6. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    True.
    I've found myself in search of a decent portrait of Valerian's for decades
    The best I could find is that one

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    Rome mint, AD 253-255
    IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    FIDES MILITVM, Fides Militum standing left, holding two standards
    3.66 gr
    Ref : RCV # 9938(45), Cohen # 65

    The former one, not as good by far

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    Rome mint, AD 255-258
    IMP VALERIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    FELICITAS AVGG, Felicitas standing left, holding caduceus and cornucopia
    4.84 gr

    Q
     
  7. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

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    Valerian Antoninianus, 254-255 AD. Diana Lucifera
    Obv: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped bust right.
    Rev: FELICITAS SAECVLI. Diana Lucifera draped walking to the right, holding a lit torch in both hands; the head surmounted by a crescent moon.


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    Phoenicia, Berytos. Valerian AE30. Astarte
    Obv: IMP CP LIC VALERIANVS AVG, Radiate bust right.
    Rev: COL IVL AVG FEL BER, Astarte standing front with head right, left foot on prow, holding standard in right hand and aphlastron in left, raising robe. To right Nike on column, crowning her.
    30mm and 15.3g.
     
  8. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Actually, I think that's an excellent portrait. It's very lifelike and expressive--I can imagine this expression on his face when he first saw all Shapur's henchmen come out of hiding and surround him.

    Here's my best:
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    Antioch mint, A.D. 253
    Obv: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG
    Rev: PIETAS AVGG - Two emperors, emperor at left sacrificing at altar with patera, emperor at right, sword on belt, holding eagle-tipped scepter
    RIC 284
    24 x 22 mm, 3.5g.
     
  9. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

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  11. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Yep, my Valerians all feature typical, crude portraits. The best by far is this, my only sestertius of this ruler:

    Valerian - Sest. Felicitas RIC 157Jul 2018 (0).jpg
    Valerian Æ Sestertius
    (255-258 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS PF AVG, laureate and cuirassed bust right / FELICITAS AVGG, SC, Felicitas standing left, holding long caduceus in right hand and cornucopiae in left.
    RIC 157; Sear 10011.
    (15.09 grams / 26 mm)
    eBay July 2018
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VALERIAN I

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    RI Valerian I 253-260 CE AE 20mm Alexandria Troas mint Horse Grazing



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    RI Valerian I 253-260 CE AR Ant Felicitas stndg Caduceus and Cornucopia
     
  13. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ah, the elusive search for a good bust o Val....here's my latest and greatest more silver than bronze ex Doug Smith collection Valerian :) IMG_0529.JPG IMG_0528.JPG
     
  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have several of his but I bought this just for the portrait & still a favorite.

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    Valerian I (253 - 260 A.D.)
    AR Antoninianus
    O: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG, radiate, draped bust right.
    R: CONCORDIA EXERCIT, Concordia standing left holding patera and double cornucopiae.
    21mm
    3g
    RIC 81, Cohen 39; Sear 9929.
     
  16. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The obverse inscription is just bizarre. It makes no sense at all: ...ASLLO... ???
     
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  17. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Indeed. I was quite intrigued by this coin when buying it.
    I kept the original attribution (Volusian) but I searched and I think it is a similar situation with the last 2 coins from here.
    https://www.beastcoins.com/RomanProvincial/Pisidia-Antioch/Pisidia-Antioch.htm

    The Antioch legends from that period were a complete mess.

    IMP C VMP CALVSSIANO AVG (Volusian)

    IMP CAE R ASLL OVALHIIR
    IMP CAE R ASLL OVALEHIR (Valerian)
     
  18. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    My Valerian is pretty spot on to him later in life...
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    Oh how I make myself laugh:happy:
    If you don't get it please read up on the man's life after capture.
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    The man was clearly ugly. I'll leave it up to you all to figure out which one is the real Valerian o_O
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  19. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...i like that wooden statue...abstract modern impressionism..with a side of cube?!?..:p

    i reckon these would be called a valerian in the middle east >< ottoman footstool.jpg
     
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  20. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Don’t forget that our boy Valerian was allegedly skinned and stuffed as a trophy. Shapur was SAVAGE
     
  21. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice one @Mat - my favorite of all the ones shown here!
     
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