Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
"The Ottomans" on Netflix now.
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="SeptimusT, post: 4084720, member: 91240"]I would argue that you have to concede their 'Romanness' in order to grasp who they were. It's clear that they saw themselves as the heirs to Rome and made that part of their identity. They can still be Romans without being Classical Romans. They weren't Greeks, because their identity had been fundamentally changed by their incorporation into the Roman Empire. The process of assimilation [USER=84047]@Voulgaroktonou[/USER] mentions changed them in a lot of ways, but it's ultimately what defined them. </p><p><br /></p><p>The speech by Constantine XI, which they show a bit of in the show and which invokes the Punic Wars, Augustus, Constantine, and Justinian, really taps into that identity. There's some question of its authenticity, but the fact that it was attributed to the emperor shows that it is a plausible representation of their identity.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SeptimusT, post: 4084720, member: 91240"]I would argue that you have to concede their 'Romanness' in order to grasp who they were. It's clear that they saw themselves as the heirs to Rome and made that part of their identity. They can still be Romans without being Classical Romans. They weren't Greeks, because their identity had been fundamentally changed by their incorporation into the Roman Empire. The process of assimilation [USER=84047]@Voulgaroktonou[/USER] mentions changed them in a lot of ways, but it's ultimately what defined them. The speech by Constantine XI, which they show a bit of in the show and which invokes the Punic Wars, Augustus, Constantine, and Justinian, really taps into that identity. There's some question of its authenticity, but the fact that it was attributed to the emperor shows that it is a plausible representation of their identity.[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
Ancient Coins
>
"The Ottomans" on Netflix now.
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...