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Message:: [QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 8842634, member: 73489"]Saint-Gaudens Hoards By Date:  More hoard tidbits for the next 3 coins in the series. 1908-D Type 3 / Long Rays, With Motto:  Several hundred coins for this particular type came from Central America in 1983.  The Manfra, Tordella, and Brookes Hoard (1983) is probably the largest gold coin hoard ever found.  Most of the 47,000 coins consisted of U.S. Double Eagles, mostly Saints, but many Liberty Heads, too.  The rest (<1,000) were smaller denomination gold coins. Discovered in Central America -- El Salvador -- more than 90% of the coins were uncirculated.  Thousands graded MS64, MS65, and even higher. There were over 100 MS64, MS65, and MS66 specimens for this particular 1908-D WM LR.  Subsequently other uncirculated examples of the 1908-D WM including many choice specimens, were located in Europe and sold in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Because of this increased supply, as many as 250-300 Gem Mints are now known of this previously impossible-to-find issue, although no more than a few, perhaps 12-15 at most, are Superb Gems (MS-67 and up). 1908-D No-Motto: The same MTB 1983 El Salvador Hoard contained many uncirculated examples of the 1908-D No Motto, many of them grading choice to gem uncirculated with some superb MS66. Before the hoard, the 1908-D NM was very scarce in high grades. 1908 No-Motto:  The famous "Wells Fargo Saint-Gaudens Hoard" was comprised of 19,900 coins from Central or South American.  The hoard's Saint DEs had been kept in sealed bags since 1917. These bags had been temporarily stored in the vault of a Wells Fargo Bank, to which the hoard owes its name. The 1908 No-Motto Saints from the "Wells Fargo Hoard" are of nearly uniform high quality, most grading out in the MS65 to MS67 range when they were submitted to the major certification services. Even more significantly, the hoard contained 10 MS-69s, 101 MS-68's, and over 1,000 MS-67's. There's more details to the story, but Ron Gillio has never given specifics on the nature of the hoard:  who owned the coins, which country they came from, bank or private investor or military personnel or govt agency, etc.  It's understandable why he would remain quiet when the coins came out in the late-1990's; you would hope he would not be as constrained 25 years later.[/QUOTE]

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