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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cherd, post: 8099488, member: 24754&quot;]Agreed, but the important word in all of that is &quot;think&quot;. I&#039;d say that it is more likely than not that Jesus, defined by some loose criteria, existed. Nobody here is trying to argue that he didn&#039;t exist, we&#039;re just saying that it isn&#039;t anywhere near certain. There is a difference between &quot;Thinking&quot; and &quot;Knowing&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Agreed, but the thing that these people have in common is that there are reasons to doubt their historicity. Once you get past a certain point, certainty in a historical figure&#039;s having existed falls on a spectrum. For instance, here is a ranking of how certain I am that these people existed:</p><p><br /></p><p>George Washington &gt; Julius Caesar &gt; Jesus &gt; Homer &gt; Merlin</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;d bet my life that Washington and Caesar existed, but I can&#039;t know with certainty. I&#039;d bet money that Homer and Merlin didn&#039;t exist, but I can&#039;t know with certainty.</p><p>Jesus is somewhere in between.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Ya, that was a bit of a brain fart on my part.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>True, but if you are talking about whether or not Jesus existed, then you have to define &quot;Jesus&quot; to some degree. If we are just talking about a person named Jesus (Yeshua, Joshua, or whatever), then the answer is definitely yes. Once we start piling on other criteria, then the likelihood decreases. I guess the first step is to define the criteria.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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