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<p>[QUOTE="GinoLR, post: 8098646, member: 128351"]Did Jesus actually exist or is he a legend?</p><p>The overwhelming majority of historians, regardless of their personal religious affiliations if any, think Jesus actually existed. The gospels were written down in the late 1st c., only 50 or 60 years after Jesus' trial and crucifixion in Jerusalem. Tacitus already mentions Christians in Rome under Claudius and Nero, at a time when many people who were in Jerusalem at the time of the alleged Jesus' public execution were still alive. Christian beliefs were soon a matter of controversy among Pagans and Jews and we know their arguments, but no opponent to Christianity ever questioned the very existence of Jesus or said his crucifixion was fake news. </p><p>The New Testament is a compilation of books that are historical sources like any other ones. There are also early mentions of Jesus in Pagan sources like Tacitus and Jewish talmudic sources. I do not even mention Josephus, for his mention of Jesus could have been a later Christian interpolation. The historicity of Pontius Pilatus has been dramatically confirmed by an inscription found in Caesarea (which shows that he was prefect, not procurator). There are no more reasons to doubt Jesus' historicity than for Socrates, Vercingetorix or Themistocles. </p><p><br /></p><p>In 1827 in France a named Jean-Baptiste Pérès published a little pamphlet proving that Napoleon did not actually exist, that it was just a solar myth: "<i>As if Napoleon never existed or Grand Erratum, source of an infinite number of errata as noted in the history of the 19th century</i>". Well... quite convincing ! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GinoLR, post: 8098646, member: 128351"]Did Jesus actually exist or is he a legend? The overwhelming majority of historians, regardless of their personal religious affiliations if any, think Jesus actually existed. The gospels were written down in the late 1st c., only 50 or 60 years after Jesus' trial and crucifixion in Jerusalem. Tacitus already mentions Christians in Rome under Claudius and Nero, at a time when many people who were in Jerusalem at the time of the alleged Jesus' public execution were still alive. Christian beliefs were soon a matter of controversy among Pagans and Jews and we know their arguments, but no opponent to Christianity ever questioned the very existence of Jesus or said his crucifixion was fake news. The New Testament is a compilation of books that are historical sources like any other ones. There are also early mentions of Jesus in Pagan sources like Tacitus and Jewish talmudic sources. I do not even mention Josephus, for his mention of Jesus could have been a later Christian interpolation. The historicity of Pontius Pilatus has been dramatically confirmed by an inscription found in Caesarea (which shows that he was prefect, not procurator). There are no more reasons to doubt Jesus' historicity than for Socrates, Vercingetorix or Themistocles. In 1827 in France a named Jean-Baptiste Pérès published a little pamphlet proving that Napoleon did not actually exist, that it was just a solar myth: "[I]As if Napoleon never existed or Grand Erratum, source of an infinite number of errata as noted in the history of the 19th century[/I]". Well... quite convincing ! ;)[/QUOTE]
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