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Message:: [QUOTE="jtlee321, post: 2363550, member: 73983"]Your right.  I make no guarantee, which is why I said I pretty much guarantee.  My opinion is that they are a minimum 65.  By that I mean that I am about 95% sure they would come back from NGC with a MS-65 or higher slab. As for the strike on both of the O Morgans precluding them from an MS65 grade. Take a look at several of the MS65, MS66 and MS67 Morgan's graded by NGC in those years on Heritage and you will see that the strike on both of these is strong enough to meet their criteria.  The 1902-O is the weakest of the two.  The 1898-O is pretty well struck in that is has pretty good detail in the eagle's breast feathers and the hair above Liberty's ear. I have the fortunate upper hand in that I can hold the coins in hand and examine them.  The photo's I took were meant to show everything on the coin and not hide anything.  Not to mention that on a computer screen the images show a magnified representation of the coin of approximately 10X.  I compared these coins to examples that sold on Heritage in NGC plastic.  In my opinion they will grade a minimum of MS65. I am not trying to kick dirt into the pot, just conducting an experiment.  I will be sending these to NGC for grading and I will report back what grades they receive.  I have formed an opinion as to which coins will receive what grade.  I think I will be right, but of course there is a chance I am wrong.[/QUOTE]