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<p>[QUOTE="geekpryde, post: 4128379, member: 36248"]I believe you will admit that you see plenty of over-graded TPG coins, maybe even the rare under-graded coin. I also see now that you are trying to select coins that you feel are properly graded by the TPG for your GTG polls, something I didn't realise until you mentioned it above. This creates a situation where people now know you are judging them on how similar they grade to you and PCGS, and people are thus more likely to understand your polls to be "Select the grade the TPG assigned the coin", and NOT "Select the grade you think the coin should be". </p><p><br /></p><p>People wanting to be "right" will outnumber the people who interpret your polls as asking how THEY would grade the coin. It reinforces itself, as people say "ooh, I was right again" and their own standards float closer and closer to PCGS. Then the few people still grading it by their own standards look more and more like old fashioned pessimists, or contrarians, crazy old kooks, or just plain bad graders. </p><p><br /></p><p>So while you might think because you and PCGS agree on your example coins, those statements are not equivalent. The results of your polls would be quite a bit different (I think) if you specifically stated which one you are looking for to begin with. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'll be honest, I have answered you polls both ways. How I would grade, and how TPG graded. For me it wasn't about being "right", it was more fun to mix-and-match. I bet some other members did that too. Taking them as stand-alone polls, and not a portfolio of grades to show how good or bad of a grader a person is.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would <b>love</b> to see coins that you radically disagree with PCGS on. That would be a lot of fun. Don't hint at it, just mix them in. I bet you see examples all the time, that at least would keep members here on their toes, and not always trying to be "right". It would also help members who are new to grading for themselves see that PCGS is not infallible, and they are not 100% consistent, and that even you, the GTG Poll God, don't always agree with them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="geekpryde, post: 4128379, member: 36248"]I believe you will admit that you see plenty of over-graded TPG coins, maybe even the rare under-graded coin. I also see now that you are trying to select coins that you feel are properly graded by the TPG for your GTG polls, something I didn't realise until you mentioned it above. This creates a situation where people now know you are judging them on how similar they grade to you and PCGS, and people are thus more likely to understand your polls to be "Select the grade the TPG assigned the coin", and NOT "Select the grade you think the coin should be". People wanting to be "right" will outnumber the people who interpret your polls as asking how THEY would grade the coin. It reinforces itself, as people say "ooh, I was right again" and their own standards float closer and closer to PCGS. Then the few people still grading it by their own standards look more and more like old fashioned pessimists, or contrarians, crazy old kooks, or just plain bad graders. So while you might think because you and PCGS agree on your example coins, those statements are not equivalent. The results of your polls would be quite a bit different (I think) if you specifically stated which one you are looking for to begin with. I'll be honest, I have answered you polls both ways. How I would grade, and how TPG graded. For me it wasn't about being "right", it was more fun to mix-and-match. I bet some other members did that too. Taking them as stand-alone polls, and not a portfolio of grades to show how good or bad of a grader a person is. I would [B]love[/B] to see coins that you radically disagree with PCGS on. That would be a lot of fun. Don't hint at it, just mix them in. I bet you see examples all the time, that at least would keep members here on their toes, and not always trying to be "right". It would also help members who are new to grading for themselves see that PCGS is not infallible, and they are not 100% consistent, and that even you, the GTG Poll God, don't always agree with them.[/QUOTE]
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