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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;physics-fan3.14, post: 3704410, member: 19165&quot;]Enough so-called &#039;hidden&#039; marks together amount to enough to bring the grade down. They&#039;re called &quot;hidden&quot; because the average untrained eye doesn&#039;t see them. To the trained eye, they are definitely not hidden. </p><p><br /></p><p>I would argue that anything in her gown is a &quot;secondary&quot; focal area, and should count for more than marks on the rim, or something like that. </p><p><br /></p><p>The &quot;spots&quot; I reference are particularly on the reverse, between the left eagle&#039;s wing and its body. These spots are unattractive, and a clear evidence of the dip this poor coin received. The negative eye appeal from the dip, and the impact of the luster on this coin, are in itself enough to limit it to 65. </p><p><br /></p><p>These are subtle points. Nobody will argue that. Plenty will argue the outcome, and as I said, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see this in a 66 slab. But I like it best at 65.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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