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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ddddd, post: 3670373, member: 22377&quot;]Which two?&nbsp; The ones with CAC stickers?</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"> The first (w/ CAC) and the third (no CAC). Both appear to have some significant (at least for a 65) scrapes under the toned parts.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>No doubt that ugly coins sell for less and pretty coins sell for more.&nbsp; The question is should eye appeal affect the overall grade of the coin?&nbsp; Most times, toning is either non existent or neutral with respect to grade.&nbsp; It is the remaining 10% that I am talking about.&nbsp; Coins that have extremely attractive toning and resultant eye appeal deserve a higher grade, likewise, coins with horribly ugly toning deserve a lower grade.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">I believe the plus and/or star can take care of this. </span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">The top 10% within a grade can be rewarded with a plus designation. </span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">The star can be used to reward color regardless if the coin is high or low end technically for the grade.</span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">&nbsp;</span></p><p><br /></p><p>I have no problem with either of those scenarios.&nbsp; I will take this blast white MS63 Barber Quarter over any of the three gems shown above any day of the week.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/8QWAUOj.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">I prefer that one as well (compared to the other three).</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And we already know that I will pay big money for monster toned coins.&nbsp; The real problem that people have with this concept is that the TPGs haven&#039;t always done it.&nbsp; The practice of color bumping has gotten more liberal over the years.&nbsp; If they had done this from day one, the practice would be consistent, and collectors would know what to expect.</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">I agree with that. If the color was incorporated into the grade from the beginning and that was publicly acknowledged by the TPGs as a grading standard, then there would be a lot less complaining and less confusion.</span></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m already on record about that coin, the graders who called that coin MS65+, toning notwithstanding, were drunk.&nbsp; It has MS66/67 surfaces all day long.</p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">That is one that I agreed looked undergraded. Still at 68, it’s at least a 1.5 point color bump as it looks like a 66+ to me without color (and is similar to a blast white MS 66 with Green CAC that I own in a fairly recent NGC holder. </span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #4d4dff">(Edit: fixed a minor grammatical error)</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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