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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 3670214, member: 15309&quot;]Completely unnecessary comment, I sell good quality coins and don&#039;t misrepresent them.&nbsp; Furthermore, I wasn&#039;t the one who graded the &quot;ugly duckling&quot; as an MS67, NGC was.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000">You have already admitted that corrosion is a progression (</span><span style="color: #ff0000">see red text above</span><span style="color: #000000">).&nbsp; Then you claim that the rainbow toned 43-S Jefferson is a problem coin because it is corroded (</span><span style="color: #00ff00">see green text above</span><span style="color: #000000">).&nbsp; Earlier in this thread, you promised not to call rainbow toned coins damaged, yet you are calling this coin a problem coin which means you think it is damaged.&nbsp; So where does one draw the line between what constitutes damage?&nbsp; By your standard, the mere presence of any end stage (terminal) toning which is black in color is the delineating factor.&nbsp; But that is your standard, not the standard employed by the TPGs.&nbsp; And while I tend to be very harsh on coins with terminal state toning, this particular Jefferson has tremendous overall eye appeal and the terminal toning at the periphery is not distracting enough to warrant problem coin status IMO.</span></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)"><br /></span></i></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Just because they draw the line in a different place than you, doesn&#039;t mean they are wrong.&nbsp; Whatever their standard is for environmental damage should be consistent across all grades.&nbsp; What should keep a coin with terminal state toning from grading MS68 or MS69 is that it detracts from the overall &quot;EYE APPEAL&quot; of the coin.&nbsp; </span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">That said, the rainbow toned MS67 43-S Jefferson shown above is my current registry coin, and it replaced an MS68 which also had black rims.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/1KBkWZm.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 102)"><br /></span></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m glad you brought up Barber coinage.&nbsp; This conversation all started because Typecoin told us that coins with excellent surfaces, luster, and strike will automatically have excellent eye appeal as well, making the inclusion of eye appeal as an element of grading, redundant and unnecessary.&nbsp; I used to collect mint state Barber Quarters and can personally attest to how many otherwise gem Barber Quarters are absolute ruined by crappy toning and substandard eye appeal.&nbsp; Now I know that you agreed with me that he is wrong, but I would still like to leave you with a few examples of these ugly gem Barbers (photos courtesy Heritage Auctions).</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B2%2F0%2F7%2F9%2F8%2F20798486%5D&amp;call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B7%2F5%2F1%2F1%2F7511771%5D&amp;call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F9%2F8%2F1%2F4%2F19814801%5D&amp;call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Instead of complaining about bumping the grades of rainbow toned coins due to exceptional eye appeal, I think we should be talking about downgrading coins like these due to abysmal eye appeal.&nbsp; If the surfaces, luster, and strike are all great but the coin looks like hell, why should it be rewarded with a gem grade?</p><p><img src="http://]" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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