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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3658566, member: 15309"]<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">It isn't a silly opinion, it is a scientific fact.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">1) The planchet already has an oxide layer prior to the minting process. In the event that the oxide layer is completely destroyed during the striking process, then yes, the first oxide bonds will happen within seconds of it leaving the die, unless the mint takes steps to ensure that there is no hydrogen sulfide gas on the mint floor, which I highly doubt.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">2) See the answer to number one.</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"><br /></span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000">When I posted my degree, it was a warning for people to stay in their lane. Instead of heeding my warning, you have decided to go full retard. Just because you can't see the oxide layer, doesn't mean it isn't there. You can't see any microscopic particles with the naked eye, but I'm sure you will agree that protons, neutrons, and electrons are not imaginary things like ghosts, right?</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">If you are unconvinced that oxide layers invisible to the naked eye exist on all coins, we could easily use an SEM (scanning electron microscope) coupled with EDS (energy dispersive x-ray spectroscopy). It would tell you both the thickness of the oxide layer and identify the elements in the oxide layer.</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">So for anyone reading this thread, Insider's advice to pretend things aren't there because you can't see them is some of the worst and scientifically ignorant advice I have ever had the displeasure to read on this forum.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>My views on toning are not extreme at all, in fact they are basically identical to the industry standards which are employed by the TPGs and accepted by the large majority of the numismatic community.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They allow terminal toning on the rims, but if it advances onto the surface of the coin, usually they will grade the coin as problem coin for environmental damage. If a coin with terminal toning on the surface gets into a problem free holder, I would highly recommend to any collector that they not purchase that coin. It is no different than a cleaned coin in a problem free holder, it happens.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>YES</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HECK IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN? A coin's value is completely dependent upon condition, what's more, that is what you do for a living.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Incoherent babbling!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing that you do that makes me angry is your complete and utter disregard for the quote function, but I'm not spending time to fix it anymore. I'm just gonna quote the entire jumbled mess of both our words and enhance the color differentiation between your remarks and mine.</p><p><br /></p><p>Black text = Lehigh96 remarks</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Blue text = Insider remarks</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3658566, member: 15309"][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] It isn't a silly opinion, it is a scientific fact. 1) The planchet already has an oxide layer prior to the minting process. In the event that the oxide layer is completely destroyed during the striking process, then yes, the first oxide bonds will happen within seconds of it leaving the die, unless the mint takes steps to ensure that there is no hydrogen sulfide gas on the mint floor, which I highly doubt. 2) See the answer to number one. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff][B][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]When I posted my degree, it was a warning for people to stay in their lane. Instead of heeding my warning, you have decided to go full retard. Just because you can't see the oxide layer, doesn't mean it isn't there. You can't see any microscopic particles with the naked eye, but I'm sure you will agree that protons, neutrons, and electrons are not imaginary things like ghosts, right? If you are unconvinced that oxide layers invisible to the naked eye exist on all coins, we could easily use an SEM (scanning electron microscope) coupled with EDS (energy dispersive x-ray spectroscopy). It would tell you both the thickness of the oxide layer and identify the elements in the oxide layer. So for anyone reading this thread, Insider's advice to pretend things aren't there because you can't see them is some of the worst and scientifically ignorant advice I have ever had the displeasure to read on this forum.[/COLOR] My views on toning are not extreme at all, in fact they are basically identical to the industry standards which are employed by the TPGs and accepted by the large majority of the numismatic community. They allow terminal toning on the rims, but if it advances onto the surface of the coin, usually they will grade the coin as problem coin for environmental damage. If a coin with terminal toning on the surface gets into a problem free holder, I would highly recommend to any collector that they not purchase that coin. It is no different than a cleaned coin in a problem free holder, it happens. YES WHAT IN THE ACTUAL HECK IS THIS SUPPOSED TO MEAN? A coin's value is completely dependent upon condition, what's more, that is what you do for a living. Incoherent babbling! [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] The only thing that you do that makes me angry is your complete and utter disregard for the quote function, but I'm not spending time to fix it anymore. I'm just gonna quote the entire jumbled mess of both our words and enhance the color differentiation between your remarks and mine. Black text = Lehigh96 remarks [COLOR=#0000ff]Blue text = Insider remarks[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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