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<p>[QUOTE="messydesk, post: 3647549, member: 1765"]I'm on a roll! I agree with your assessment of why MS64. As for the concensus being 1.9 points low, it made me wonder about the way grades are simply ranked numerically in general (not simply for this study). When we assign a grade, we are projecting a the quality of a coin from the 4-dimensional "hypercube of quality" (surfaces, strike, luster, eye appeal) to a 1-dimensional grade. The "surfaces" dimension of that is actually a little more complicated, in that not only can they be worn, but they can be beat up -- two separate, mostly independent continua. You constantly hear that AU58 is typically nicer than MS61, as it is an MS62-63 coin that has a touch of wear noticeable on it. Heck, my broadstruck 21-S Morgan is a 65 with a touch of rub on it. An MS61 with wear shouldn't grade better than 55, and a worn MS60 would grade 53. Something similar might also be observable for XF45 (an AU53 with a little too much wear) and VF35 (an XF45 with too much wear). It would seem that what we think of as a wear continuum between 1 and 58 sometimes isn't. Mathematically, it would almost be like saying x - 1 + 1 does not necessarily equal x. For example, take away one aspect that knocked a coin down to AU53, and it doesn't necessarily go up to AU55, it may go up to MS61. What does this mean for the study? Probably almost nothing, since trying to figure out everyone's interpretation of how AU58 ranks within a grading scale would be folly, but it wouldn't be unrealistic to put AU58 above MS61. If I do this, the average grade becomes 62.5. Food for thought on a Monday morning.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="messydesk, post: 3647549, member: 1765"]I'm on a roll! I agree with your assessment of why MS64. As for the concensus being 1.9 points low, it made me wonder about the way grades are simply ranked numerically in general (not simply for this study). When we assign a grade, we are projecting a the quality of a coin from the 4-dimensional "hypercube of quality" (surfaces, strike, luster, eye appeal) to a 1-dimensional grade. The "surfaces" dimension of that is actually a little more complicated, in that not only can they be worn, but they can be beat up -- two separate, mostly independent continua. You constantly hear that AU58 is typically nicer than MS61, as it is an MS62-63 coin that has a touch of wear noticeable on it. Heck, my broadstruck 21-S Morgan is a 65 with a touch of rub on it. An MS61 with wear shouldn't grade better than 55, and a worn MS60 would grade 53. Something similar might also be observable for XF45 (an AU53 with a little too much wear) and VF35 (an XF45 with too much wear). It would seem that what we think of as a wear continuum between 1 and 58 sometimes isn't. Mathematically, it would almost be like saying x - 1 + 1 does not necessarily equal x. For example, take away one aspect that knocked a coin down to AU53, and it doesn't necessarily go up to AU55, it may go up to MS61. What does this mean for the study? Probably almost nothing, since trying to figure out everyone's interpretation of how AU58 ranks within a grading scale would be folly, but it wouldn't be unrealistic to put AU58 above MS61. If I do this, the average grade becomes 62.5. Food for thought on a Monday morning.[/QUOTE]
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